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Old 10-01-2012, 20:25   #46
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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Are we all not a part of a island conjoined? (apart from Ireland)? If any broke away would they try and break away the land mass?
You do realise that if we weren't joined to Scotland we would float away and join France.
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Old 10-01-2012, 20:28   #47
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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If Scotland were to break away from the United Kingdom then it would have to negotiate separate membership of any and all international bodies it wanted to join, including the EU.
I don't know what support the EU has in Scotland but do you suppose that Salmond would try to use that in an attempt to gain support for independance . It would be the only way they could escape the clutches of Europe without the rest of the UK leaving .For some it may be a pursuasive argument
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

BTW Salmond seems to have tried to beat Cameron to the punch and has set a date of 2014....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/ja...rendum-cameron
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Old 10-01-2012, 21:18   #49
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I don't know what support the EU has in Scotland but do you suppose that Salmond would try to use that in an attempt to gain support for independance . It would be the only way they could escape the clutches of Europe without the rest of the UK leaving .For some it may be a pursuasive argument
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Scotland’s rightful place in Europe - We believe that Scotland, like other similar nations, should have a seat at the top table of Europe and the SNP will continue to engage more extensively with the Commission and Council of Ministers
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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8. Would the Independence of Scotland result in the further breakup of the UK?
No. Neither Northern Ireland nor Wales have anywhere near enough revenue generating ability to sustain themselves with their current standard of living.
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Old 10-01-2012, 22:50   #51
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

So now the SNP have set a date, or a rough estimate of a date, what happens? Is there going to be a campaign for the pro-union side that we can donate too?
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Old 10-01-2012, 23:02   #52
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

There will doubtless be a joint Lib/Lab/Con campaign for a no vote, led, if they have any sense, by Labour.

Even with an outright majority at Holyrood the SNP did not achieve a popular majority in 2010 ... unionist parties between them got a little over 50% of the vote, and that in an election the SNP won despite, not because of, its separatist agenda.

Incidentally, I have a ticket to BBC Radio Scotland's version of Question Time this Friday ... "Brian Taylor's Big Debate" ... Looks like I might have accidentally got a seat for the most important edition ever. Cannae wait!
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Couldn't care less about Scotland wanting to leave the UK. The differences between Scotland and England seem to grow with time, and it's getting pretty boring Scottish MPs getting a say on matters that don't apply to Scotland while having devolved powers.
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Old 10-01-2012, 23:37   #54
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

I care a great deal. This is the UK, Britain. Scotland is part of that. It would be tragic to lose that...
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

What he said.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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Couldn't care less about Scotland wanting to leave the UK. The differences between Scotland and England seem to grow with time, and it's getting pretty boring Scottish MPs getting a say on matters that don't apply to Scotland while having devolved powers.
However that all I want to see happen.I'd hate to have to have a visa to visit Scotland.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

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However that all I want to see happen.I'd hate to have to have a visa to visit Scotland.
I would speculate that a passport wouldn't be required between the home nations.

I'm fairly unconcerned by the prospects of Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland leaving the union. Scotland seem to want to be a socialist nirvana, they can pay for it themselves directly through raising their own revenues, Wales and Northern Ireland are extremely resource consuming.

Things change.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

I don't think the Scots so stupid to fall for Salmond.

Salmond, is a very good politician, however look behind Slamond and the SNP is devoid of any other charismatic member.

The SNP are a one man party, Salmond is the SNP and vice versa and without him there is no SNP

He wont be there forever.

Do the Scots really want to be led to Independance by Salmond, and then dumped like a bride the day after her wedding.
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?

Maybe Cameron should spike Salmond's guns by immediately setting up an alternative referendum as to whether the rest of the UK should leave Scotland..

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No, I'm Welsh. And the majority of us do not want devolution.
Only half Welsh IIRC
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No, I'm Welsh. And the majority of us do not want devolution.
But that's only because the Welsh GDP is just slightly less than Haiti's
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