Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Damien

Tbf you need more than that to implicate him.

A party bag with some cake and a toy in it maybe?

As I said earlier a room with a cake whatever for 10 mins is a different thing to literally sending out invites. Both against the rules but few people think that people who are already at work doing something like that is as bad as the other parties. I maintain Johnson likely would have been fine if the cake was the only story.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

Tbf you need more than that to implicate him.

Agreed. Sunak's story is far more convincing than that of Johnson's decorator moving seamlessly around probably the most secure building in the country. Given the frequency of parties at No. 10, it would seem hard for Sunak to avoid at least one of them!

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Rishi Sunak dragged into party row saying he 'accidentally' attended

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...downing-street

He went for a reason, possibly not the party.

Mr Sunak was unintentionally present when a birthday cake was served, after heading to the cabinet room for a COVID strategy committee meeting. Political correspondent Nadine Batchelor-Hunt said: "Rishi Sunak accidentally went to Boris Johnson's No 10 birthday event. I'm told he was present when the birthday cake was served but was unaware it was going to happen as he'd gone to the room specifically for COVID strategy committee meeting."

Source the Express article you linked to.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by pip08456

He went for a reason, possibly not the party.


Quote:
Mr Sunak was unintentionally present when a birthday cake was served, after heading to the cabinet room for a COVID strategy committee meeting. Political correspondent Nadine Batchelor-Hunt said: "Rishi Sunak accidentally went to Boris Johnson's No 10 birthday event. I'm told he was present when the birthday cake was served but was unaware it was going to happen as he'd gone to the room specifically for COVID strategy committee meeting."


Source the Express article you linked to.

Exactly. A business meeting, not a party.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It's hard not to disagree with Old Boy as he holds bewilderingly contradictory positions and you can't agree with all of them at the same time!

I prefaced my comment about there being no case by the words ‘from what we know’. There is nothing contradictory about my position on this.

I suspect very much there is nothing that will prove BJ’s complicity with breaking of Covid rules, but I will not be absolutely sure until we know the police verdict and we see Sue Gray’s report. I’ve not said anything other than that we should reserve judgement.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Exactly. A business meeting, not a party.

It’s curious how this thread has basically gone exactly the same way as the future of tv thread.

Johnson's defenders, including Rees-Mogg on Newsnight, are saying a new leader requires a General Election. I can't believe any Tory MPs are buying that.

[Julian]

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Two of them accidentally went to a party, how unlucky is that ?

What is unfair is that Boris has had more parties in lockdown than I've had in my lifetime !

When you're a clown almost everytime you show up it's a party, perhaps he should use that as his defence, it's better than he didn't realise

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Originally Posted by Chris

It’s curious how this thread has basically gone exactly the same way as the future of tv thread.

Curious or inevitable

At this "surprise" work meeting/party/birthday party/get-together with cake and M&S snacks, you would have thought the person in charge of the country (and his Chancellor of the Exchequer) who was telling everyone else not to get together for work meetings/parties/birthday parties/get-togethers that weren’t necessary, might have had the sense to say "sorry, guys & gals, it’s a lovely thought, but this is actually against the rules we told everyone else to follow, so let’s just stop what’s happening, OK?".

The cake, the surprise, the 10 minutes, the Interior Decorator in the Cabinet Room are all just gaslighting and distractions - they set the rules, they reminded us nearly every day of what the rules were, they had people fined throughout this period for breaking the rules.

There are no excuses.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Exactly. A business meeting, not a party.

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I prefaced my comment about there being no case by the words ‘from what we know’. There is nothing contradictory about my position on this.

I suspect very much there is nothing that will prove BJ’s complicity with breaking of Covid rules, but I will not be absolutely sure until we know the police verdict and we see Sue Gray’s report. I’ve not said anything other than that we should reserve judgement.

Really?

At their own admission, Carrie gathered staff (and Lulu Lytle) to the Cabinet Room for a surprise before the meeting that Sunak was attending - there was no purpose for this pre-meeting except to surprise Johnson with a cake and to sing "Happy Birthday"…

What are you going to say next - he was ambushed by a cake?

[1andrew1]

Keeping everyone on their toes!

Robert Preston Sue Gray’s report has not been delivered to the PM tonight and won’t be now. It is expected to go to him tomorrow. But that timetable is not set in stone and there is a risk it could slip to Thursday.

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1486085432953737222

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I prefaced my comment about there being no case by the words ‘from what we know’. There is nothing contradictory about my position on this.

I suspect very much there is nothing that will prove BJ’s complicity with breaking of Covid rules, but I will not be absolutely sure until we know the police verdict and we see Sue Gray’s report. I’ve not said anything other than that we should reserve judgement.

The two phrases in bold contradict each other, Old Boy.

You can't simultaneously say there's no case whilst at the same time reserving judgment.

Originally Posted by Hugh

There are no excuses

Yeah, no more excuses to have further lockdown for essentially what was a bad form of Pneumonia.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Keeping everyone on their toes!

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1486085432953737222

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The two phrases in bold contradict each other, Old Boy.

You can't simultaneously say there's no case whilst at the same time reserving judgment.

As I said 'from what we know', which basically accepts that more information may be forthcoming that changes things, there is no contradiction.

[1andrew1]

Looks like No. 10 doesn't have the report yet. Truss mentioned national security may mean some parts are redacted.
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...ghani-12514080

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Looks like No. 10 doesn't have the report yet. Truss mentioned national security may mean some parts are redacted.
https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...ghani-12514080

Were there Russians ambushing him with cakes?

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

As I said 'from what we know', which basically accepts that more information may be forthcoming that changes things, there is no contradiction.

Except when you posted this yesterday evening..

There is no way that Boris will be prosecuted or fined as it is pretty clear from what we know that there is insufficient evidence to do so

Even includes "from what we know"