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Old 19-01-2022, 13:34   #1246
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

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It's you that's trolling with your snide and unnecessary remarks.
No, I don't think so Richard.
Considering the constant reminders about your disability, you obviously have access to, and probably membership of, many varied sites relating to the online abuse of the disabled and hate crimes in general.

I'm simply questioning why you think the information you seek regarding the misogyny question would get you a better answer here than any of those other sites.
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I'm simply questioning why you think the information you seek regarding the misogyny question would get you a better answer here than any of those other sites.
Seconded. It sounded more to me like an attempt to get the subject of Misandry discussed but strangely for someone else to go first.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

More to the point, is it really relevant to "Police to get tough on internet trolls."

Lets try and stick to the subject.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

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No, I don't think so Richard.
Considering the constant reminders about your disability, you obviously have access to, and probably membership of, many varied sites relating to the online abuse of the disabled and hate crimes in general.

I'm simply questioning why you think the information you seek regarding the misogyny question would get you a better answer here than any of those other sites.
The problem here is that you are erroneously treating your assumptions as correct.

As I have previously explained, it's to let people know of the limitations that disability causes to enable them to take a holistic approach when dealing with the disabled.

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Seconded. It sounded more to me like an attempt to get the subject of Misandry discussed but strangely for someone else to go first.
That's the term for the male equivalent, yes. I couldn't think of it at the time- thank you.

Only misogyny was mentioned, but to not also include misandry would be as ridiculous as saying that racism only applies to people of colour and sexism only applies to women.

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More to the point, is it really relevant to "Police to get tough on internet trolls."

Lets try and stick to the subject.
Upon hearing this, my thinking was that if misogyny and/or misandry do end up becoming classed as hate crimes, it would be highly unlikely that they wouldn't be included in the legislation currently being considered in order to deal with the trolling of people based on their gender.

Since nobody here appears to have heard anything about this, i'll ask my contact at Ofcom when I feel a little better.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

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The problem here is that you are erroneously treating your assumptions as correct.

As I have previously explained, it's to let people know of the limitations that disability causes to enable them to take a holistic approach when dealing with the disabled.
An answer that went nowhere near the question I asked

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That's the term for the male equivalent, yes. I couldn't think of it at the time- thank you.

Only misogyny was mentioned, but to not also include misandry would be as ridiculous as saying that racism only applies to people of colour and sexism only applies to women.
Lots of 'racism' stuff is ridiculous, it's way over the top in some areas.

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Upon hearing this, my thinking was that if misogyny and/or misandry do end up becoming classed as hate crimes, it would be highly unlikely that they wouldn't be included in the legislation currently being considered in order to deal with the trolling of people based on their gender.

Since nobody here appears to have heard anything about this, i'll ask my contact at Ofcom when I feel a little better.
Maybe doing that the first time would have been better than asking the question here . . which you apparently 'felt better enough' to do at the time.



Do you have an opinion on 'Midget Gems' . . . or Mini Cheddars, Tiny Tots, Bigger Peas, or books like 'Little Women?
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

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An answer that went nowhere near the question I asked



Lots of 'racism' stuff is ridiculous, it's way over the top in some areas.



Maybe doing that the first time would have been better than asking the question here . . which you apparently 'felt better enough' to do at the time.



Do you have an opinion on 'Midget Gems' . . . or Mini Cheddars, Tiny Tots, Bigger Peas, or books like 'Little Women?
Or transistors….
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Old 21-01-2022, 21:46   #1252
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

I decided to look up the definition of trolling.I found it interesting to find some different interpretations to the obvious one of the old fairy tale of trolls living under a bridge.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...glish/trolling
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Old 21-01-2022, 23:51   #1253
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

According to the trick cyclists I have PTSD, clinical depression and acute anxiety syndrome ordinary sawbones have a 6" thick folder full of things that affect me daily and what consideration should any of that get me on the internet absolutely none. It's my choice to interact with other's on the internet and it's my personal responsibility to understand that my experience may not be all rainbows and unicorn farts, it's also my choice where I go on the internet and if I go someplace and have a negative experience I don't go back. What I don't do is threaten anyone, I don't support ridiculous legislative over reach or expect a white knight in any form to come to my rescue and if my personal circumstances intervene in anyway on my interaction on the internet that is my problem not the Internet's or other people's on the internet.

Maggy raises a good point what definition of trolling will be used by this legislation do we rely on our so called representatives to thoroughly research this when the majority of them can't even do their expenses and business dealings accurately. You don't like it Richard but the world isn't a safe place so why should a digital representation of that world be safe everywhere for everyone do you stroll or wheel your way through the bad parts of where you live of course not but you expect to be safe everywhere you go on the internet. As a society we seem to be dumbing down and expecting other's to deal with thing's that we should be personally responsible for and used to be and it's getting out of control.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

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I decided to look up the definition of trolling.I found it interesting to find some different interpretations to the obvious one of the old fairy tale of trolls living under a bridge.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...glish/trolling
I agree that trolling is a problem, but are we clear about what it is?
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

Ummm, if you are not clear on what it is, how can you agree its a problem ?
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Ummm, if you are not clear on what it is, how can you agree its a problem ?
Excellent question.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53nRcfosYR0

Rosie Jones who takes the pee constantly about her condition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abBi...n%27sGotTalent

Lost Voice Guy who has turned his disability to good ends.

Just two who have turned their disability into a positive.They make their points and promote themselves and others with disabilities. They don't look around to make themselves a special case.They take on the world on their own terms.They are wonderful advocates for equality for the disabled.There are very many more if you care to look around.Indeed one of the most popular TV shows is presented by people with disability and uses humour to make some pretty good points about what it is to be disabled and yet not let it hold them back.

Maybe they should be referenced more by Richard as an example of how to show positivity instead of constant negativity.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53nRcfosYR0

Rosie Jones who takes the pee constantly about her condition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abBi...n%27sGotTalent

Lost Voice Guy who has turned his disability to good ends.

Just two who have turned their disability into a positive.They make their points and promote themselves and others with disabilities. They don't look around to make themselves a special case.They take on the world on their own terms.They are wonderful advocates for equality for the disabled.There are very many more if you care to look around.Indeed one of the most popular TV shows is presented by people with disability and uses humour to make some pretty good points about what it is to be disabled and yet not let it hold them back.

Maybe they should be referenced more by Richard as an example of how to show positivity instead of constant negativity.
Did you see how Rosie was treated by an Uber driver last week? that highlight that no matter how many positives someone can make of their condition they see get faced with prejudice sometimes
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Did you see how Rosie was treated by an Uber driver last week? that highlight that no matter how many positives someone can make of their condition they see get faced with prejudice sometimes
Speaking as a woman I know that.However why always underline the negativity?Why not go for the complete positivity in every situation? It's one way of making everyone disabled feel that they can rise above their situation.

There are always horses arses but always letting them set the agenda is no way to improve anything.Abuse of those weaker than yourself is underlining that you feel threatened by disability.

This entire thread is full of negativity about the disabled.It's depressing.
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Speaking as a woman I know that.However why always underline the negativity?Why not go for the complete positivity in every situation? It's one way of making everyone disabled feel that they can rise above their situation.

There are always horses arses but always letting them set the agenda is no way to improve anything.Abuse of those weaker than yourself is underlining that you feel threatened by disability.

This entire thread is full of negativity about the disabled.It's depressing.
Exactly. No amount of “new initiatives” by the government will change the prejudice in some people. At best you can try to run it underground but that doesn’t change the problem.
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