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Old 20-09-2021, 14:40   #46
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Re: E10 petrol - the pitfalls.

I mentioned E10 to a mate, who frowned immediately. No storing petrol for his lawnmowers, chainsaws, and hedge trimmers, unless he pays the extra for E5 super. Another added cost to his ailing business.
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Old 20-09-2021, 14:42   #47
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Re: E10 petrol - the pitfalls.

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I mentioned E10 to a mate, who frowned immediately. No storing petrol for his lawnmowers, chainsaws, and hedge trimmers, unless he pays the extra for E5 super. Another added cost to his ailing business.
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I mentioned E10 to a mate, who frowned immediately. No storing petrol for his lawnmowers, chainsaws, and hedge trimmers, unless he pays the extra for E5 super. Another added cost to his ailing business.
There are options for E10 https://www.sta-bil.co.uk/blogs/news...t-your-vehicle
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£8.99 to treat 76 litres.
At 12p per litre, its probably cheaper just to buy E5.
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This product is subject to specific safety warnings

May be fatal if swallowed and enters airways.

May cause drowsiness or dizziness.

Suspected of causing cancer.

Suspected of damaging fertility or the unborn child.

May cause long-term adverse effects in the environment

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A good comparison test for fuel stabilisers. It's not all good news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chsGBhB5g7o

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Re: E10 petrol - the pitfalls.

Our young neighbours got caught by track and trace, then positive PCR tests, so had a 3-week rollercoaster ride at home with covid-19.

At the beginning of last week, now recovered, the husband asked to borrow my battery charger as both their cars refused to start, and the batteries went flat.

2 days later, the cars would still not start, so he recharged the batteries once more and got a mechanic to have a look.

He found that the E10 fuel in both had undergone phase separation and had absorbed water, so he drained the petrol tanks, flushed the fuel systems and added new fuel.

Perfect starts for both cars.

The mechanic told them that this was a growing problem, especially when cars were being left unused due to illness or WFH.
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Re: E10 petrol - the pitfalls.

Don't buy E10.
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Re: E10 petrol - the pitfalls.

Currently have E10 in tank as price was so much cheaper than E5 and I am doing more miles over Christmas. When things settle to normal low mileage likely to go back to E5 but in past I've had E10 unused for some days without issue.
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Don't buy E10.

I use Premium Diesel
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I use Premium Diesel
E10 is petrol.
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Re: E10 petrol - the pitfalls.

I do one fill at half empty E5 then next one E10.
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Re: E10 petrol - the pitfalls.

I wouldn't be able to use E10, my car needs premium petrol.
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Re: E10 petrol - the pitfalls.

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I wouldn't be able to use E10, my car needs premium petrol.
is that true for all Rolls-Royces?

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Our young neighbours got caught by track and trace, then positive PCR tests, so had a 3-week rollercoaster ride at home with covid-19.

At the beginning of last week, now recovered, the husband asked to borrow my battery charger as both their cars refused to start, and the batteries went flat.

2 days later, the cars would still not start, so he recharged the batteries once more and got a mechanic to have a look.

He found that the E10 fuel in both had undergone phase separation and had absorbed water, so he drained the petrol tanks, flushed the fuel systems and added new fuel.

Perfect starts for both cars.

The mechanic told them that this was a growing problem, especially when cars were being left unused due to illness or WFH.
I don't use my car much so am sticking to E5 for this reason. If I holidayed by car then I would be tempted to use E10 for the holiday but most of the time the car just sits there.
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I mentioned E10 to a mate, who frowned immediately. No storing petrol for his lawnmowers, chainsaws, and hedge trimmers, unless he pays the extra for E5 super. Another added cost to his ailing business.
He gave up and moved to all-electric tools and a small generator.

A garage killed my 27-year-old Skoda, no parts available, so I was about to scrap it, but got an enquiry from a guy in Poland. He sent a mechanic to do a thorough inspection, then offered me £750. It was in my bank minutes later, and the car was taken away the next day.

So now I have moved on to an E10-compatible 2019 Dacia Logan MCV. It's got a titchy engine, so won't really benefit from E5 Premium. The tank is HDPE, so the rust problem is moot, but the low mileage I do throws up the problem of phase separation: keep the tank close to full to reduce the amount of humid air it is exposed to, but have to lug that extra weight around (it's got a 50 litre tank); or keep the tank almost empty, causing more humid air to be in contract with it.

I've been trawling the internet about the additives available in the UK, but none seem to have proper science behind them.
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Re: E10 petrol - the pitfalls.

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He gave up and moved to all-electric tools and a small generator.

A garage killed my 27-year-old Skoda, no parts available, so I was about to scrap it, but got an enquiry from a guy in Poland. He sent a mechanic to do a thorough inspection, then offered me £750. It was in my bank minutes later, and the car was taken away the next day.

So now I have moved on to an E10-compatible 2019 Dacia Logan MCV. It's got a titchy engine, so won't really benefit from E5 Premium. The tank is HDPE, so the rust problem is moot, but the low mileage I do throws up the problem of phase separation: keep the tank close to full to reduce the amount of humid air it is exposed to, but have to lug that extra weight around (it's got a 50 litre tank); or keep the tank almost empty, causing more humid air to be in contract with it.

I've been trawling the internet about the additives available in the UK, but none seem to have proper science behind them.
You may as well just buy E5 fuel then you won't have all that faffing around.
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