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Old 03-03-2023, 17:54   #1
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Boris misled just about everyone.

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Johnson may have misled Parliament over parties, say the Priviliges Committee

Boris Johnson may have misled Parliament over Partygate on four occasions, MPs investigating his conduct say.

Evidence strongly suggests breaches of coronavirus rules would have been "obvious" to Mr Johnson, the privileges committee said in an update.

On Friday, the committee published its initial report, including some previously unseen photos of Downing Street parties and a number of WhatsApp messages from officials.

The report highlighted four occasions where Mr Johnson may have misled parliament:
  • When he told the Commons on 8 December 2021 no rules or guidance had been broken in Number 10, after Ms Gray and the Met Police had "already come to the conclusion that was not correct"
  • When, in the same statement, he relied upon statements from his advisers that the rules had not been broken instead of using other evidence available to him
  • When he failed to tell the Commons about his own "personal knowledge" of the gatherings where the rules or guidance had been broken
  • When he gave the impression that there needed to be an investigation by Ms Gray to establish whether any rules had been broken
The report says Mr Johnson "did not correct" misleading statements he made in the Commons at the "earliest opportunity", as would have been expected from an MP.

The report found "evidence strongly suggests that breaches of guidance would have been obvious to Mr Johnson at the time he was at the gatherings".

It also said there was "evidence that those who were advising Mr Johnson about what to say to the press and in the House were themselves struggling to contend that some gatherings were within the rules".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64836425
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Re: Johnson may have misled Parliament over parties, say MPs

And this is from a committee where Conservatives are in the majority.

He's an habitual liar, he knows it ,we know it , MPs know it.
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Re: Johnson may have misled Parliament over parties, say MPs

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And this is from a committee where Conservatives are in the majority.

He's an habitual liar, he knows it ,we know it , MPs know it.
His modus operandi, as he might say.
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Re: Johnson may have misled Parliament over parties, say MPs

Old News.
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Re: Johnson may have misled Parliament over parties, say MPs

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Old News.
Report only published this afternoon.
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Re: Johnson may have misled Parliament over parties, say MPs

based on the labour insider report.
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Re: Johnson may have misled Parliament over parties, say MPs

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Report only published this afternoon.
Im sure you can work this one out, but since you pretend to be so dense, "parties" are old news, no one except the press cares anymore.
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Re: Johnson may have misled Parliament over parties, say MPs

May have? May have?
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Re: Johnson may have misled Parliament over parties, say MPs

https://apple.news/AMZAdmy3rQr6jpojl1AJtTw

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The document published yesterday by the privileges committee was not its final report into Boris Johnson’s conduct, but a summary of the issues that the MPs intend to raise with him in a public hearing this month.

Their document began by restating the context for the investigation. In April last year, the Commons voted to commission the committee to investigate whether Johnson was in contempt of the House when answering questions from MPs about lockdown rule-breaking.

They said they were considering four overarching matters: “What Mr Johnson said to the House; whether what he said was correct or whether it was misleading; how quickly and comprehensively any misleading statement to the House was corrected; and if it is established that the House was misled, whether this actually constituted a contempt of the House by impeding the functions of the House”.

If the committee finds that any of Johnson’s statements were misleading, it will then “consider whether that was inadvertent, reckless or intentional”.

The committee said: “We are not conducting an investigation into ‘partygate’ or the culture and behaviour of No 10 and officials who worked there over the relevant period. While we are concerned to establish the facts of what occurred in No 10 for the purpose of discharging our obligation . . . we are not repeating the inquiry which was conducted by the Metropolitan Police or the investigation conducted by [Sue Gray] . . . Our inquiry has not considered the conduct of any individual other than Mr Johnson because our mandate from the House is to look specifically at Mr Johnson’s conduct.
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Re: Johnson may have misled Parliament over parties, say MPs

Tbh he's hated by Tories, hated by Labour, hated by the public. Suspect his wife and his ex' s aren't that keen.
The only person that loves Boris, is Boris.
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Re: Johnson may have misled Parliament over parties, say MPs

He's a politician. Max Headroom said it best:
How do you know a politician's lying?
His lips move.
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Im sure you can work this one out, but since you pretend to be so dense, "parties" are old news, no one except the press cares anymore.
The importance of the story is that if Johnson is found to have misled Parliament by the Committee, then he will be suspended and a by-election called.
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The importance of the story is that if Johnson is found to have misled Parliament by the Committee, then he will be suspended and a by-election called.
Isn't that if 10% of his constituents demand it there will be a by election. I suspect they might, doubt he's spent 10% of his time in his constituency since he was forced out of office in disgrace
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Isn't that if 10% of his constituents demand it there will be a by election. I suspect they might, doubt he's spent 10% of his time in his constituency since he was forced out of office in disgrace
I'm not an expert on this but this is where I think I read that information.
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If Mr Johnson is found to have misled Parliament, he could be suspended as MP or expelled, creating a by-election.
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The importance of the story is that if Johnson is found to have misled Parliament by the Committee, then he will be suspended and a by-election called.
Read the whole article, its not quite as simple as that.
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But the committee's findings, and any sanction on Mr Johnson, would have to be approved by a vote in parliament.
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