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Old 05-03-2023, 21:23   #31
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You trust the met! Given their track record , l find it hard to trust them to correctly issue a parking ticket.
You appear to have missed the point - there were two separate investigations by two separate groups, and both found laws had been broken.
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You appear to have missed the point - there were two separate investigations by two separate groups, and both found laws had been broken.
Plus Gove and smugg were queueing up to praise her brilliance and integrity when the heat was on them, doesn't that matter now, pretty daft of them to be reminding people of what they were getting up to whilst us plebs couldn't visit people in hospital for the last time or go to funerals as well imo
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Plus Gove and smugg were queueing up to praise her brilliance and integrity when the heat was on them, doesn't that matter now, pretty daft of them to be reminding people of what they were getting up to whilst us plebs couldn't visit people in hospital for the last time or go to funerals as well imo
This was the week when all should have gone well for the Conservatives with two successes - the Northern Ireland Brexit deal at the start of the week and ambulance strike called off at the end.

Instead the ghost of Partygate has returned to haunt them through Hancock's texts (why share them with a lockdown sceptic whose partner is leader of a competing political party, Reform UK?) and criticising Labour's appointment of Sue Gray.

Both easily avoidable mistakes.
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Old 06-03-2023, 22:12   #34
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Re: Sue Gray

Starmer completely swerved the question put to him 8x by Ferrai on LBC this morning: "When did you first speak to Sue Gray about being his chief of staff?" - word to that effect.

So clearly, he's hiding something - something he doesn't want us to know.

Whilst there is a whiffy smell here, it doesn't taint Gray's findings on that the lying "no North Sea border", Boris toad.
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Starmer completely swerved the question put to him 8x by Ferrai on LBC this morning: "When did you first speak to Sue Gray about being his chief of staff?" - word to that effect.

So clearly, he's hiding something - something he doesn't want us to know.

Whilst there is a whiffy smell here, it doesn't taint Gray's findings on that the lying "no North Sea border", Boris toad.
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"I had absolutely no contact with Sue Gray during the preparation of her report when she was writing or anything like that, so the whole suggestion is a complete and utter nonsense."
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What's that got to do with anything? Nobody but the liar Boris (and his stupid mates) are casting doubt on Gray's conclusions. The question is:
When did Starmer ask the senior civil servant to become a Labour Party official?
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Old 06-03-2023, 23:09   #37
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What's that got to do with anything? Nobody but the liar Boris (and his stupid mates) are casting doubt on Gray's conclusions. The question is:
When did Starmer ask the senior civil servant to become a Labour Party official?
I think it might be an issue that if it was a while ago then she may have had to ask for permission from the civil service to have the contact. He has said she can reveal when contact was made if she wants.
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I think it might be an issue that if it was a while ago then she may have had to ask for permission from the civil service to have the contact. He has said she can reveal when contact was made if she wants.
Agreed - but it would have been a two way conversation and if you'd have been able to hear the LBC programme, you'd have instantly identified the politicians' swerve.
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You appear to have missed the point - there were two separate investigations by two separate groups, and both found laws had been broken.
My point is that the Met or for that matter all poilce force's can no longer be trusted , how ever history suggests that they are always suspect, Cardiff 3 ? Birmingham 6 , recent sex crimes by police in London , 5 die in Cardiff car "found " many hours later . I could go on
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My point is that the Met or for that matter all poilce force's can no longer be trusted , how ever history suggests that they are always suspect, Cardiff 3 ? Birmingham 6 , recent sex crimes by police in London , 5 die in Cardiff car "found " many hours later . I could go on
Generalising that all police forces are the same is a bit like that saying all politicians are of the same ilk.
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Re: Sue Gray

I'm not sure how sex crimes by the police is the same as not finding a car for two days.

(Btw, many other cars passed by the mantioned missing car without noticing it either).
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