Police to get tough on internet trolls.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by jfman

Deal with them… how?

Forbidding them to do business with or support rogue sites in any way.

My assumption is that these would be either businesses based in the UK or businesses that wish to be allowed to continue doing business with UK companies.

I'm sure the exact details will come out when the Bill is debated in the House of Commons & the House of Lords.

[jfman]

Under what enforcement powers, and enforced by whom?

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Being able to identify and trace thise making inappropriate comments etc isn't all about punishment.

"inappropriate comments" - as decided by who exactly ?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by jfman

Under what enforcement powers, and enforced by whom?

The Online Safety Act after it's expected to be passed and Ofcom.

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Originally Posted by Paul

"inappropriate comments" - as decided by who exactly ?

AIUI, as it stands and subject to parlimentary scrutiny and amendments by both houses, it will be site owners (who may delegate their obligations/duties/powers etc to admin/moderators) after guidance/procedural directions from Ofcom.

If anyone is unhappy about what is/isn't done as a result of this process, they can contact Ofcom whose decision is expected to be final. If their instructions are not complied with, there are a range of measures/sanctions that can be applied such as heavy fines, imprisonment etc.

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It's not just individuals who can be guilty of trolling, harrassment etc, sometimes it's organisations or overseas Governments who seek to do it to journalists: successful Asian women etc:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct5d91

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The Online Safety Act after it's expected to be passed and Ofcom.

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AIUI, as it stands and subject to parlimentary scrutiny and amendments by both houses, it will be site owners (who may delegate their obligations/duties/powers etc to admin/moderators) after guidance/procedural directions from Ofcom.

If anyone is unhappy about what is/isn't done as a result of this process, they can contact Ofcom whose decision is expected to be final. If their instructions are not complied with, there are a range of measures/sanctions that can be applied such as heavy fines, imprisonment etc.

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It's not just individuals who can be guilty of trolling, harrassment etc, sometimes it's organisations or overseas Governments who seek to do it to journalists: successful Asian women etc:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct5d91

What would happen if a Troll is harassed for trolling ?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The Online Safety Act after it's expected to be passed and Ofcom.

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AIUI, as it stands and subject to parlimentary scrutiny and amendments by both houses, it will be site owners (who may delegate their obligations/duties/powers etc to admin/moderators) after guidance/procedural directions from Ofcom.

If anyone is unhappy about what is/isn't done as a result of this process, they can contact Ofcom whose decision is expected to be final. If their instructions are not complied with, there are a range of measures/sanctions that can be applied such as heavy fines, imprisonment etc.

---------- Post added at 16:32 ---------- Previous post was at 16:24 ----------

It's not just individuals who can be guilty of trolling, harrassment etc, sometimes it's organisations or overseas Governments who seek to do it to journalists: successful Asian women etc:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct5d91

There’s nothing in the Online Safety Bill about being able to restrict the ability of any company, anywhere in the world, to trade in the UK on the basis of advertising on a website hosted overseas.

Even the extensive amount of detail in proposed codes of practice aren’t enforceable. They are guidance.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Paul

"inappropriate comments" - as decided by who exactly ?

Quite. A few posters on here need to look out…

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Quite. A few posters on here need to look out…

Ha ha

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by jfman

There’s nothing in the Online Safety Bill about being able to restrict the ability of any company, anywhere in the world, to trade in the UK on the basis of advertising on a website hosted overseas.

Even the extensive amount of detail in proposed codes of practice aren’t enforceable. They are guidance.

This is what politicians have said, probably best to wait until it starts to work it's way through the houses when more details will become clear.

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

What would happen if a Troll is harassed for trolling ?

They would both leave themselves open to action being taken against them by the website(s) they're doing it on. Two wrongs don't make a right..

The best course of action would be to report it, rather than do the same thing back.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

AIUI, as it stands and subject to parlimentary scrutiny and amendments by both houses, it will be site owners

LOL, So ........

I decide if my comments are inappropriate .. brilliant.

[RichardCoulter]

As the Online Safety Bill makes its way through the House of Lords, Conservative peer Baroness Morgan of Coates has tabled an amendment

The amendment calls for a code of practice regarding violence against women and girls as this isn't currently specifically mentioned in the Bill.

She acknowledges that there are pockets on the internet where everyone is exposed to unwelcome behaviour and attention, but that women and girls (especially those of colour) are 27 times more likely to experience this.

[pip08456]

It is about time politicians in this country realised they cannot regulate the internet. They don't have that power. No Government has.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

As the Online Safety Bill makes its way through the House of Lords, Conservative peer Baroness Morgan of Coates has tabled an amendment

The amendment calls for a code of practice regarding violence against women and girls as this isn't currently specifically mentioned in the Bill.

She acknowledges that there are pockets on the internet where everyone is exposed to unwelcome behaviour and attention, but that women and girls (especially those of colour) are 27 times more likely to experience this.

Hopefully there will be lots more requests to include more and more provisions until it gets so unwieldy and complicated that the government puts a match to it to add to the bonfire of EU Regulations.

The proposed legislation is burdensome, will do little to address the perceived problem and is unworkable, while at the same time putting unnecessary burdens on websites. It needs to be trashed and the sooner the better.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The amendment calls for a code of practice regarding violence against women and girls as this isn't currently specifically mentioned in the Bill.

More nonsense, what about violence against boys, men, babies, unicorns, whatever - starting to pick out specific groups/people/whatever is just ridiculous.

Still, I hope this delays it more and more until someone eventually realises what a complete pile of unworkable crap it is.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Hopefully there will be lots more requests to include more and more provisions until it gets so unwieldy and complicated that the government puts a match to it to add to the bonfire of EU Regulations

There is no bonfire of EU regulation, Old Boy. In fact, red tape for British businesses trading with the EU is only going to continue to increase.