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Old 10-11-2021, 12:08   #181
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

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I'm not biased to a party, I can't stand any of them.

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Yes - giving legal advice against the British government whilst serving as an MP is treason in my book.

IDS chairing a committee that makes decisions that impact an organisation he works for is corruption.

Funny how many jobs in the real world for far less money than MPs' salaries are exclusive contracts so you can't work for anyone else. Yet for those who govern us, such rules don't apply.
The one group whom I don't think should be able to take a second job are the police.However I don't mind the fact that they can because they have to run it past their superiors and frankly the salary they recieve are truly peanuts compared to our representatives in Parliament.I really don't think that public servants should be able to take on second paid job that may cause conflict in their main job.
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In this day and age, nobody - from the top to the bottom - should need a second job.
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In this day and age, nobody - from the top to the bottom - should need a second job.
We need poor people for the people slightly better off than them to look down at though.
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We need poor people for the people slightly better off than them to look down at though.
And to blame for why their life isn't better, I find it one of life's oddities that we seek to blame those beneath us rather than look up to those above us who actually exert some influence upon us, perhaps that's due to the old class system or just the human predilection to blame someone, it can't just be fate, luck or worse still a bit of personal responsibility in the blame game
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

Well the next election is a pass for me the corruption and sleaze in this current Tory party makes it impossible for me to vote for them and even if they got rid of boris the buffoon it isn't enough. From dubious 2nd jobs to the awarding of contracts the Johnson government has looked more like a friends beneficiary organisation then a real government but as bad as they are I couldn't vote for labour. We really are running out of options and given the way things are going retirement can't come soon enough.
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Well the next election is a pass for me the corruption and sleaze in this current Tory party makes it impossible for me to vote for them and even if they got rid of boris the buffoon it isn't enough. From dubious 2nd jobs to the awarding of contracts the Johnson government has looked more like a friends beneficiary organisation then a real government but as bad as they are I couldn't vote for labour. We really are running out of options and given the way things are going retirement can't come soon enough.
They hate pensioners so be careful what you wish for.
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

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In this day and age, nobody - from the top to the bottom - should need a second job.
As well as my main job in Law I’m also a wrestling referee and ring announcer, both of which I get paid for. Nothing I’m ever going to retire on but enough to get me through January when I’m always skint after Christmas.

Why shouldn’t I have those extra jobs?
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As well as my main job in Law I’m also a wrestling referee and ring announcer, both of which I get paid for. Nothing I’m ever going to retire on but enough to get me through January when I’m always skint after Christmas.

Why shouldn’t I have those extra jobs?
Would you need additional jobs if you were paid £80k+ and had a renumeration "package" work hundreds of thousands more? I took his point to be that no one's wage for a full time job should leave them in a position where they need to take on a part time job just to get by, which incidentally you don't by the sound of it, you want nice Christmas' without getting into debt which is fair enough but hardly the same as choosing whether to eat or pay full rent
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Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

I took “nobody” to mean nobody I guess….
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I took “nobody” to mean nobody I guess….
It's true though isn't it Russ, you don't do that because you have to and truth be known you've probably done it plenty of times for no pay at all
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In this day and age, nobody - from the top to the bottom - should need a second job.
Either you are really clueless, or just trolling for a reaction.

Plenty of people need a second job in order to earn reasonable money, and not rely on handouts.

Just becasue the UK average is £30K does not mean everyone gets it.
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Sleaze is just corruption with a good accountant and lawyer…
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Either you are really clueless, or just trolling for a reaction.

Plenty of people need a second job in order to earn reasonable money, and not rely on handouts.

Just becasue the UK average is £30K does not mean everyone gets it.
In fairness he said “should”. The economy shouldn’t be structured in such a way two people need to work for peanuts (and be supplemented by the taxpayer) to keep a roof over their head and pay the bills.

However everyone jumped on the bandwagon, mortgaged themselves up to their combined eyeballs, pushed house prices up and aren’t genuinely better off for it.

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