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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Dear Lord, you cannot imagine the scale of the enormity of the toss (polite version) that I couldn't give about that.
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Yes but most normal people care about their Prime Minister being truthful. You don't, I get it, but most do.
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07-06-2022, 17:45
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Yes but most normal people care about their Prime Minister being truthful. You don't, I get it, but most do.
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Maybe he's just being an incredibly brave boy and wants to understate the whole illness. I'm sure he's not the type to exaggerate to gain sympathy or a political advantage. 
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07-06-2022, 17:54
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Yes but most normal people care about their Prime Minister being truthful. You don't, I get it, but most do.
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Just like Blair he never lied did he 
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07-06-2022, 18:14
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Just like Blair he never lied did he |
About nearly dying - no, he didn’t…
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07-06-2022, 18:24
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
 Defending Bliar now
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07-06-2022, 18:56
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Why so shocked, lying is the PM's default position these days. Blair couldn't lay a finger on him in comparison.
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07-06-2022, 19:28
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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About nearly dying - no, he didn’t…
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You can say what you want about Johnson, and be right. But whatever he may or may not have done is nowhere near the blood that Blair has on his hands through lies, never mind about misleading Parliament.
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Why so shocked, lying is the PM's default position these days. Blair couldn't lay a finger on him in comparison.
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07-06-2022, 19:55
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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I know, but quite a few announced publicly how they voted…
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Righty bloviating…
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I see you got the Whips’ WhatsApp message, then… 
However, in the real world, 117 voted against May, and 148 against Johnson, so if you’re playing the percentages game, 26.5% more Tory MPs voted against Johnson… |
It doesn't matter a hang. If Johnson carries on regardless and achieves his manifesto, who in the Parliamentary party will be speaking against him then? Only the usual suspects (mainly remainers).
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07-06-2022, 20:12
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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It doesn't matter a hang. If Johnson carries on regardless and achieves his manifesto, who in the Parliamentary party will be speaking against him then? Only the usual suspects (mainly remainers).
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Was his manifesto - inflation and fuel prices out of control, the NHS in shreds, immigration massively high, taxes massively high , national debt at record highs, empty shop shelves, strikes, lack of people prepared to work at min wage rates and a cost of living crisis? If so, carry on , he's a shoe in....
( and votes against have come from all parts of his divided party. The 'usual suspects' are most of his backbenchers - they are Turkeys and they see Xmas coming...)
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07-06-2022, 20:16
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
After all we don't know what Tory MPs have been told by their constituents about the situation.It's their base support they will be listening to.
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07-06-2022, 20:24
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Was his manifesto - inflation and fuel prices out of control, the NHS in shreds, immigration massively high, taxes massively high , national debt at record highs, empty shop shelves, strikes, lack of people prepared to work at min wage rates and a cost of living crisis?
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That sounds like standard Labour policy.
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07-06-2022, 20:32
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That sounds like standard Labour policy. |
Exactly ! but theres no vacancy for Labour leader atm.
Tbh wouldn't put it past him to change parties if it meant keeping the party pad and that lovely wallpaper....
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07-06-2022, 21:04
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Defending Bliar now |
Making crap up now
Stating a fact about someone (I personally think Blair’s a dick) isn’t "defending" them - otherwise, if I stated you seem to spend most of your time on this forum trolling, that would be me "defending" you…
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07-06-2022, 21:57
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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It doesn't matter a hang. If Johnson carries on regardless and achieves his manifesto, who in the Parliamentary party will be speaking against him then? Only the usual suspects (mainly remainers).
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He's already trashed the manifesto.
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07-06-2022, 22:54
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Was his manifesto - inflation and fuel prices out of control, the NHS in shreds, immigration massively high, taxes massively high , national debt at record highs, empty shop shelves, strikes, lack of people prepared to work at min wage rates and a cost of living crisis? If so, carry on , he's a shoe in....
( and votes against have come from all parts of his divided party. The 'usual suspects' are most of his backbenchers - they are Turkeys and they see Xmas coming...)
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Have you forgotten about Covid and Ukraine already? Yours are pretty crass examples. Neither Covid nor the war were foreseen, and they had to be paid for.
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That sounds like standard Labour policy.
Exactly ! but theres no vacancy for Labour leader atm.
Tbh wouldn't put it past him to change parties if it meant keeping the party pad and that lovely wallpaper.... |
Ah right. So you are criticising Boris now for the furlough scheme and all the other support he put into fighting the disease, and you think that’s what Labour would have done. And do you agree with supporting Ukraine?
If so, why are you criticising him?
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He's already trashed the manifesto.
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It’s delayed, not trashed, for the reasons above.
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