Police to get tough on internet trolls.
22-12-2021, 17:46
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Yep.
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Then I ask you again. How do you know you are not addicted? did having to train at home have a psychological effect on you?
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22-12-2021, 17:49
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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For someone who has suffered from depression you appear to have very little understanding around mental problems
Try empathy Russ you have suffered, I have suffered and still suffer from depression. I have empathy for others and I have a understanding of not only psychology but also physiology
How do you know you are not addicted to training?
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Just because someone suffers from something it doesn't mean they have to agree or have the same viewpoint, empathy or care for that matter with someone suffering the very same problem. I find it really odd they you'd expect that.
Social media is based around narcissists, you've only got to say something they don't expect or just disagree with them and they can't handle it. Maybe from their viewpoint they see that as being abused.
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22-12-2021, 17:50
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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did you watch the video?
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Nope, there was no video in your post when I started replying to it.
Having checked, its over 15 minutes, I dont have time for that atm.
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It is mainly the young "The Millennials" that are falling the most foul of trolling on social media
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Perhaps they are also the biggest users of it.
Also, Millennials is basically people born between 1981 and 1996 so most of them now are not so young now.
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22-12-2021, 17:53
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Then I ask you again. How do you know you are not addicted? did having to train at home have a psychological effect on you?
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Maybe ascertain the reason why I continued at home first before jumping to conclusions?
The reason I carried on at home is at my age it’s very easy to lose gains, shape, muscle tone and replace it with fat. It’s then even harder to lose that fat and try to build muscle again. After 2 months of inactivity I’m pretty certain I’d lose the vast majority of my gains for the past 5 years.
Did it have a psychological effect, no. Unless you class my not wanting to go out and buy loads of new and more slack clothes to fit me a “psychological effect”.
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22-12-2021, 17:58
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Nope, there was no video in your post when I started replying to it.
Having checked, its over 15 minutes, I dont have time for that atm.
Perhaps they are also the biggest users of it.
Also, Millennials is basically people born between 1981 and 1996 so most of them now are not so young now.
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It includes those born into the 2000s anyway Gen Z can be included with exactly the same reasoning
Basically using social media and getting likes and affirmation releases Dopamine into the brain. This is the same pleasure chemical that triggers addiction to alcohol and gambling and the like. Millennials have grown up with the technology and for a lot it has become a way of life and a very true addiction. When it all turns negative the addiction still exists and it becomes a real problem where it can lead to depression and so on. Sometimes leading to suicide. The very fact that is causes an addiction shows just saying "do not use it" will not work
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Maybe ascertain the reason why I continued at home first before jumping to conclusions?
The reason I carried on at home is at my age it’s very easy to lose gains, shape, muscle tone and replace it with fat. It’s then even harder to lose that fat and try to build muscle again. After 2 months of inactivity I’m pretty certain I’d lose the vast majority of my gains for the past 5 years.
Did it have a psychological effect, no. Unless you class my not wanting to go out and buy loads of new and more slack close to fit me a “psychological effect”.
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With you continually training you have not gone cold turkey on the chemicals released by your brain so you could well be addicted to them
I was a sports therapist and Martial Artist in another life so know all about training and maintenance and addiction
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22-12-2021, 18:04
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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With you continually training you have not gone cold turkey on the chemicals released by your brain so you could well be addicted to them
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Would you mind if I suggest that I know my body better than you?
I had a tooth extraction earlier this year. The dentist advised me to avoid the gym for 2 weeks.
I’m pretty sure a gym addiction would have meant I’d have been crawling up the walls during those 2 weeks. I didn’t, I just got with stuff and returned when the swelling went down.
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22-12-2021, 18:21
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Would you mind if I suggest that I know my body better than you?
I had a tooth extraction earlier this year. The dentist advised me to avoid the gym for 2 weeks.
I’m pretty sure a gym addiction would have meant I’d have been crawling up the walls during those 2 weeks. I didn’t, I just got with stuff and returned when the swelling went down.
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I asked if you were addicted I never said you were addicted. It is only now you have answered the question and you have added reasoning behind it. Thank you for the answer
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Just because someone suffers from something it doesn't mean they have to agree or have the same viewpoint, empathy or care for that matter with someone suffering the very same problem. I find it really odd they you'd expect that.
Social media is based around narcissists, you've only got to say something they don't expect or just disagree with them and they can't handle it. Maybe from their viewpoint they see that as being abused.
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I never said everyone has to agree with me or have the same viewpoint but I am seeing what I perceive as a lack of understanding on the subject and I am surprised someone who suffered/suffers from depression has that little understanding to my perception
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22-12-2021, 18:24
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You asked and I said I wasn’t but you kept on, giving the impression you weren’t satisfied with my response. I don’t need to justify/explain what I don’t have.
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I never said everyone has to agree with me or have the same viewpoint but I am seeing what I perceive as a lack of understanding on the subject and I am surprised someone who suffered/suffers from depression has that little understanding to my perception
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I’m surprised that you claim to have any real understanding of it for others given how unique and individual each case of depression is.
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22-12-2021, 18:26
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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You asked and I said I wasn’t but you kept on, giving the impression you weren’t satisfied with my response. I don’t need to justify/explain what I don’t have.
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I was not satisfied with your response because most addicts deny their addiction. You then followed up with more information which did satisfy me. You were free to not answer and I was free to be not satisfied
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I’m surprised that you claim to have any real understanding of it for others given how unique and individual each case of depression is.
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Well I have an education in psychology and physiology so I know to a degree how the brain works and I know the effect chemicals and hormones have on the brain
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22-12-2021, 18:34
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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I was not satisfied with your response because most addicts deny their addiction.
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As do most people who don’t have an addiction.
Im sure in an earlier post you said you prefer to see the positive in people. And I thought I was the cynical one.
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Well I have an education in psychology and physiology so I know to a degree how the brain works and I know the effect chemicals and hormones have on the brain
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You may have some idea of how the brain works, that doesn’t mean you have any advanced understanding or knowledge of how depression affects each individual sufferer.
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22-12-2021, 18:42
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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As do most people who don’t have an addiction.
Im sure in an earlier post you said you prefer to see the positive in people. And I thought I was the cynical one.
You may have some idea of how the brain works, that doesn’t mean you have any advanced understanding or knowledge of how depression affects each individual sufferer.
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I never said I did but I have empathy and understanding of what it is like to be depressed. And I obviously understand the whole issue around social media and mental health than most here as it seems there is a lot of a denial it even exists.
Even if you were addicted to training I would not have thought it was a bad addiction I was simply trying to get my point across about the chemicals and hormones
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22-12-2021, 18:45
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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I was not satisfied with your response because most addicts deny their addiction. You then followed up with more information which did satisfy me. You were free to not answer and I was free to be not satisfied
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Well I have an education in psychology and physiology so I know to a degree how the brain works and I know the effect chemicals and hormones have on the brain
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Formal or informal?
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22-12-2021, 18:49
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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I never said I did but I have empathy and understanding of what it is like to be depressed. And I obviously understand the whole issue around social media and mental health than most here as it seems there is a lot of a denial it even exists.
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So we’re agreed that a someone previously suffering depression does not automatically make them any kind of authority on how it affects other sufferers? Good, glad we got there eventually.
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Even if you were addicted to training I would not have thought it was a bad addiction I was simply trying to get my point across about the chemicals and hormones
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I don’t care whether you think anything I do is good or bad. You put forward a suggestion, I put you right on it, you refused to accept it.
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22-12-2021, 18:54
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
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Formal or informal?
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Formal in both all as part of my sports therapy diploma I took in the 90s
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So we’re agreed that a someone previously suffering depression does not automatically make them any kind of authority on how it affects other sufferers? Good, glad we got there eventually.
I don’t care whether you think anything I do is good or bad. You put forward a suggestion, I put you right on it, you refused to accept it.
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irrelevant to my argument
Why the hostility dude ?
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22-12-2021, 19:01
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Maybe I was feeling targeted and bullied by your persistence that I must be addicted to the gym?
Swings and roundabouts.
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