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Old 03-07-2022, 21:58   #2956
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

Whether Sir Keir is fined or not, he's had the integrity to offer to resign. Unlike our PM who has been found guilty, fined and doesn't give a toss what the plebs think.
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Old 03-07-2022, 22:07   #2957
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Whether Sir Keir is fined or not, he's had the integrity to offer to resign. Unlike our PM who has been found guilty, fined and doesn't give a toss what the plebs think.


I also positively welcome the chance of Starmer being fined as it would add a little more pressure on our worst PM I've known (Johnson) to resign.
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Old 03-07-2022, 22:12   #2958
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Whether Sir Keir is fined or not, he's had the integrity to offer to resign. Unlike our PM who has been found guilty, fined and doesn't give a toss what the plebs think.
More shit you speak. He has zero Integrity. The Starmer clown back in Jan called on Boris to resign while being investigated, no fine was yet issued, now Starmer is under his own criminal investigation, why hasn’t he took his own advice and resigned?

He’s a pathetic snivelling hypocrite, that’s why.
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Come off it Hugh. There is that little bit of technology on a camera called zoom.

The video is as clear as rain, that’s Starmer holding a beer, with other people in situ. It’s a social event, Starmer should be being fined and fall on his sword.
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

Obviously, if Starmer is fined he should resign (and looks like he will) but no one should take any lectures from supporters of Boris Johnson about this. We should hold politicians to a higher standard than they do for their mate Boris.

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More shit you speak. He has zero Integrity. The Starmer clown back in Jan called on Boris to resign while being investigated, no fine was yet issued, now Starmer is under his own criminal investigation, why hasn’t he took his own advice and resigned?

He’s a pathetic snivelling hypocrite, that’s why.
Well if he resigns then that's more integrity than Boris Johnson.
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A zoom lens that can change the direction the photo is taken from?

The photos were taken directly from in front of the window; the gates at the bottom of the driveway are at (at least) a 45 degree angle to the windows…



So what?

It doesn’t remove the fact Starmer is clearly at a social event.
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That can be explained away by another imaginary friend
Well, we’ve been on holiday twice this year with this "imaginary" friend and their partner, and we’re off to Dubrovnik next Sunday for a week with them.

You really shouldn’t judge everyone else by your standards…
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Obviously, if Starmer is fined he should resign (and looks like he will) but no one should take any lectures from supporters of Boris Johnson about this. We should hold politicians to a higher standard than they do for their mate Boris.

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Well if he resigns then that's more integrity than Boris Johnson.
Rubbish. You don’t tell someone to resign while being investigated, then don’t do it yourself when also coming under investigation.
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Obviously, if Starmer is fined he should resign (and looks like he will) but no one should take any lectures from supporters of Boris Johnson about this. We should hold politicians to a higher standard than they do for their mate Boris.

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Well if he resigns then that's more integrity than Boris Johnson.
If he was so sure of his innocence he should have resigned as the party is bigger than one person and it would have set him apart from Boris if he didn't get his collar felt. At the very least he should have steeped aside pending the outcome.
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Old 03-07-2022, 22:22   #2965
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Well, we’ve been on holiday twice this year with this "imaginary" friend and their partner, and we’re off to Dubrovnik next Sunday for a week with them.

You really shouldn’t judge everyone else by your standards…
Enough. This isn’t the papa and Hugh hour.
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So what?

It doesn’t remove the fact Starmer is clearly at a social event.
I was replying to your statement that the photos could have been taken with a zoom lens from the gate..
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Rubbish. You don’t tell someone to resign while being investigated, then don’t do it yourself when also coming under investigation.
Maybe but if he resigns when he is fined that's a step more than Johnson ever did.

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If he was so sure of his innocence he should have resigned as the party is bigger than one person and it would have set him apart from Boris if he didn't get his collar felt. At the very least he should have steeped aside pending the outcome.
Well if he is so sure of his innocence he wouldn't resign because he is thinking he won't be fined?
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Whether Sir Keir is fined or not, he's had the integrity
If……..he is fined he has ZERO integrity.

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doesn’t give a toss what the plebs think.
Again, ……if……….he’s right there.

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Well if he resigns then that's more integrity than Boris Johnson.
Or a mug, you decide.
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If……..he is fined he has ZERO integrity.
How would that compare to Johnson being fined and not resigning?

Even for a Johnson defender, you must eventually accept that resigning once given an FPN has more integrity than remaining in position after receiving one.
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Or a mug, you decide.
He advocated for laws that saw people criminalised. He broke those laws he should go. The only mugs here would be the people who defend a situation where they have to obey laws that those who opposed them broke.
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