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Old 28-06-2022, 10:18   #2866
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The polls as well as the by-elections show Labour ahead. The only hope for the Conservatives is a change of leadership to someone untainted like Hunt.
Hunt is not untainted. He is a Remainer and will be resented by a large Tory MP cohort.

He is tainted also by his failure to hand over a fit for purpose health service, that spent its money on clinical matters rather than bureaucracy, diversity and the like.
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Old 28-06-2022, 10:37   #2867
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Hunt is not untainted. He is a Remainer and will be resented by a large Tory MP cohort.

He is tainted also by his failure to hand over a fit for purpose health service, that spent its money on clinical matters rather than bureaucracy, diversity and the like.
By untainted I mean not a Minister close to Johnson.

The bookies have him as a likely next leader.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...rvative-leader
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Old 28-06-2022, 10:42   #2868
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By untainted I mean not a Minister close to Johnson.

The bookies have him as a likely next leader.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...rvative-leader
I hope not. He's useless.
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Old 28-06-2022, 10:44   #2869
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The polls as well as the by-elections show Labour ahead. The only hope for the Conservatives is a change of leadership to someone untainted like Hunt.
Tories would not win with Hunt, he is actually Tainted, he was a disgrace as Health Secretary. He also hinted at stronger lockdowns, like China, he is not favoured to be leader.
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Old 28-06-2022, 10:54   #2871
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The polls as well as the by-elections show Labour ahead. The only hope for the Conservatives is a change of leadership to someone untainted like Hunt.
I can smell your desperation, dream on.
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In terms of Labour having known policies that people can buy into or out of, I agree that they're behind. There comes a time when you need to put your cards on the table and be confident with your hand.
This is their biggest weakness, they don't have a position on anything.

What is Starmer's position on the rail dispute?
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How sad it would be if the Lada became PM. Btw, "tuk-tuk" might be more appropriate for Boris.
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Old 28-06-2022, 11:03   #2874
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This is their biggest weakness, they don't have a position on anything.

What is Starmer's position on the rail dispute?
On the fence like every thing else.

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This is their biggest weakness, they don't have a position on anything.

What is Starmer's position on the rail dispute?
Starmer issued directive last week, no front benchers on picket lines. That order was defied, so there’s your answer.
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I can smell your desperation, dream on.
I thought he had an exclusion order against you being that close?

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This is their biggest weakness, they don't have a position on anything.

What is Starmer's position on the rail dispute?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...strike-pickets

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We do not want to see these strikes to go ahead with the resulting disruption to the public. The government have failed to engage in any negotiations.
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Starmer issued directive last week, no front benchers on picket lines. That order was defied, so there’s your answer.

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I thought he had an exclusion order against you being that close?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...strike-pickets
Indeed the Leader of the Labour Party not supporting the worker.
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Indeed the Leader of the Labour Party not supporting the worker.
So he’s wrong if he supports the strike and he’s wrong if he doesn’t support the strike?

I thought he was supporting the workers - those trying to get to work by train?
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So he’s wrong if he supports the strike and he’s wrong if he doesn’t support the strike?

I thought he was supporting the workers - those trying to get to work by train?
One might conclude that Starmer supports one type/class of worker and not the other.
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