Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Mick

But these fascist and racist homophobe accusations need to stop, because it’s utter bullshit.

Where did anyone say he was a racist and homophobe?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

The thing is anyone on the centre/ centre right, that might have batted away conspiracy ideologues in the past, may look at all this and start thinking differently.

Not if they've done their homework. Let's look at what has happened. Twitter has released selective info on the treatment of some right wing people to some right wing journalists who have lapped it up. Effectively, he fed red meat to the lions. Surprise, surprise, they filled their boots!

If we want to know the full, accurate picture, we need a lot more information than Musk has given. We need to know the treatment of everyone, left, centre and right. And we need to know what actions resulted in their Tweets being muted.

Here's a good article on the situation:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-63963779

[TheDaddy]

Apparently twitter has stopped paying rent now, musk told staff to renegotiate terms or just skip paying them which they're now doing , on top of that teslas third largest shareholder Kogeun Leo calls on teslas board to protect shareholders and warns them they'll be in breach of fiduciary duty if they don’t act

This has appeared on Truth Social - I wonder if he will post something similar on Twitter?

Hes going to retire

[1andrew1]

That free speech promise did not last too long!

Twitter suspends account that monitors flight paths of Elon Musk’s private jet

Twitter has suspended an account that monitors the flight paths of a private jet owned by the social media giant’s new boss, Elon Musk.

The account was run by Jack Sweeney, a Florida college student and aviation enthusiast who created a Twitter bot to track the locations of private jets owned by Musk and other prominent figures including the Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos of Amazon and the billionaire entrepreneur Mark Cuban.

On 7 November, shortly after acquiring Twitter for $44bn, Musk tweeted: “My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk.”

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ount-suspended

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

“My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk.”

Possibly, since he's now very concerned about his safety, he decided it was a safety risk...

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Possibly, since he's now very concerned about his safety, he decided it was a safety risk...

Flight data is publically trackable information. It's just him using his right to block/ban users, he did the same with the account that initially posted the video of the booing. It also appears at the moment he may have banned the personal account of the user who ran the flight tracking account.

He is perfectly entitled to do this. It's my point earlier that you're not promised by law to have a platform on Twitter.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

He is perfectly entitled to do this. It's my point earlier that you're not promised by law to have a platform on Twitter.

It's an important point yet one which some have difficulty in grasping. "My house, my rules." Someone has to make these decisions and whatever you decide, someone won't be happy. If you incite violence and hatred or annoy Musk then don't expect to have a Twitter account for too long. It's not a human right.

Twitter can ban accounts, dial up and down the reach off Tweets and doesn't have to justify its actions to anyone else but its owners. The same applies to other social media platforms but if they are listed on stock exchanges, that gives more scrutiny to their financials and potentially other areas. Twitter is now a private company and won't have such scrutiny from Wall Street.

There's also probably an element of technology being ahead of legislation. I hope we can expect to see more transparency around decision-making but I'm not holding my breath. There is a cost to such things.

Originally Posted by ianch99

Where did anyone say he was a racist and homophobe?

You inferred Ian, that he had allowed all these nasty vile accounts, racists, homophobes back on, because that is his kind of people. No he’s not.

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Originally Posted by Damien

Flight data is publically trackable information. It's just him using his right to block/ban users, he did the same with the account that initially posted the video of the booing. It also appears at the moment he may have banned the personal account of the user who ran the flight tracking account.

He is perfectly entitled to do this. It's my point earlier that you're not promised by law to have a platform on Twitter.

Musk has explained, in a later post that his Son “X” was followed in a car by a stalker, thinking the car had Musk in, I think this has spooked him, I joined a Twitter space a few days ago, where he stated, he is on extra guard, no longer poses for pictures or signs autographs. He also said he isn’t feeling suicidal, referring to Epstein, in where there is a conspiracy that he did not kill himself.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

You inferred Ian, that he had allowed all these nasty vile accounts, racists, homophobes back on, because that is his kind of people. No he’s not.
Musk has explained, in a later post that his Son “X” was followed in a car by a stalker, thinking the car had Musk in, I think this has spooked him, I joined a Twitter space a few days ago, where he stated, he is on extra guard, no longer poses for pictures or signs autographs. He also said he isn’t feeling suicidal, referring to Epstein, in where there is a conspiracy that he did not kill himself.

I've not tracked Musk's political views, but we learnt from Damien's post that Musk is permitting far right white nationalists onto the platform which the previous regime banned, extract below.

Originally Posted by Damien

People on the right may have been banned, but now people who posted white nationalist content are back.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I've not tracked Musk's political views, but we learnt from Damien's post that Musk is permitting far right white nationalists onto the platform which the previous regime banned, extract below.

I’ve tracked his political views, I’ve already said he had historically voted Democrat and supported former, U.S President Barack Obama, Clinton’s. Etc. but no longer because of the utter vileness from the left and wokeness.

But as Pierre pointed there is still the vile nasty lefties & woke idiots, who still hound JK Rowling because of her stance on protecting biological women & their rights which are being eroded by a few in the trans community.

Originally Posted by Mick

Musk has explained, in a later post that his Son “X” was followed in a car by a stalker, thinking the car had Musk in, I think this has spooked him, I joined a Twitter space a few days ago, where he stated, he is on extra guard, no longer poses for pictures or signs autographs. He also said he isn’t feeling suicidal, referring to Epstein, in where there is a conspiracy that he did not kill himself.

That may be what he is saying but it doesn't change all this kid was doing was posting public information. He even said he wouldn't ban the account when he took over because he believes in free speech but clearly he changed his mind. It also doesn't explain why he banned the personal account of the Twitter user in question who hadn't broken any rules because - once again - he only posted public information.

He is also now taking legal action against the kid which I think is out of line. Banning him, fine, makes Musk a hypocrite but it's his platform and he makes the rules but one of the wealthiest men in the world going after a 20-year-old for posting flight tracking links is absurd.

Remember all he did was post from here: https://www.flightradar24.com/

Originally Posted by Damien

That may be what he is saying but it doesn't change all this kid was doing was posting public information. He even said he wouldn't ban the account when he took over because he believes in free speech but clearly he changed his mind. It also doesn't explain why he banned the personal account of the Twitter user in question who hadn't broken any rules because - once again - he only posted public information.

He is also now taking legal action against the kid which I think is out of line. Banning him, fine, makes Musk a hypocrite but it's his platform and he makes the rules but one of the wealthiest men in the world going after a 20-year-old for posting flight tracking links is absurd.

Remember all he did was post from here: https://www.flightradar24.com/

Well, you have said yourself, he’s a allowed to change his mind, I think he’s had a scare and he’s decided to change the rules on posting stuff which can track people in real time, specific people.

Originally Posted by Mick

Well, you have said yourself, he’s a allowed to change his mind, I think he’s had a scare and he’s decided to change the rules on posting stuff which can track people in real time, specific people.

Well, he is deciding the rules based on how it personally impacts him. Same as banning the account that originally posted the video of him being booed. The guy is moderating Twitter based on his fragile ego.

My point is that Elon Musk isn't any better than the other silicon valley tech bros that have taken over the industry in the last decade or so. Twitter, Uber, Facebook are all horrible companies for different reasons and then you have others than are outright crooks like Theranos and FTX.

Telsa I was quite excited by so it's a shame their leader is a bellend as well. I just have no idea why people celebrate these idiots and pick sides between one set of crappy Twitter owners and the new crappy Twitter owner.