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Old 18-03-2023, 21:11   #11221
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No, I meant the scart sockets that preceded the HDMIs.

Not all old TV sets have scart sockets. I hadn’t realised that either until one of my neighbours asked me for some advice. Of course those TVs that do have one are not compromised because you can use a converter.

There is a workaround, but I suspect that most people would not bother.

https://www.switchhelp.co.uk/faq_noscart.html
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Old 18-03-2023, 21:22   #11222
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Jeez OB they’ve been doing HDMI on TVs since the early 2000s. Sky and Virgin haven’t included them by default on STBs for years. If we are pandering to folk with 20 year old technology we will never get to 2035.
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Old 18-03-2023, 23:03   #11223
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Not all old TV sets have scart sockets.
You mean museum pieces, with CRTs ?
SCART was standard for TVs since around the start of the 1980's, until eventually overtaken by HDMI.
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No, I meant the scart sockets that preceded the HDMIs.

Not all old TV sets have scart sockets. I hadn’t realised that either until one of my neighbours asked me for some advice. Of course those TVs that do have one are not compromised because you can use a converter.

There is a workaround, but I suspect that most people would not bother.

https://www.switchhelp.co.uk/faq_noscart.html
Fire Sticks have a HDMI connector, not a SCART connector.
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Old 19-03-2023, 00:50   #11225
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Fire Sticks have a HDMI connector, not a SCART connector.
I think we all know that, Hugh. But of course you can buy a Scart to HDMI Converter.

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Jeez OB they’ve been doing HDMI on TVs since the early 2000s. Sky and Virgin haven’t included them by default on STBs for years. If we are pandering to folk with 20 year old technology we will never get to 2035.
It’s the government’s job to sort that out, not the broadcasters. In the meantime, the broadcasters have to get workarounds.

Having said that, those people who want to watch premium sport have probably already overcome that problem.
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I think we all know that, Hugh. But of course you can buy a Scart to HDMI Converter.

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It’s the government’s job to sort that out, not the broadcasters. In the meantime, the broadcasters have to get workarounds.

Having said that, those people who want to watch premium sport have probably already overcome that problem.
The point is that you appeared to be stating that people with older TVs would need a SCART socket for a Fire Stick, which had a HDMI connector, and that some "older" TVs wouldn’t have SCART sockets.

And considering SCART sockets first appeared on U.K. TV in the late 70s, even that assertion appears misaligned with actuality…
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I too am still struggling to see why OB mentioned TVs not having scart sockets when the only device we've discussed here uses HDMI.
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The point is that you appeared to be stating that people with older TVs would need a SCART socket for a Fire Stick, which had a HDMI connector, and that some "older" TVs wouldn’t have SCART sockets.

And considering SCART sockets first appeared on U.K. TV in the late 70s, even that assertion appears misaligned with actuality…
Did you not read my link?
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Did you not read my link?
Your link is irrelevant to the original point you were making, in reference to Fire Sticks, that older TVs (by which you must mean pre-1980's) didn't have SCART sockets...
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Your link is irrelevant to the original point you were making, in reference to Fire Sticks, that older TVs (by which you must mean pre-1980's) didn't have SCART sockets...
I believe it was jfman who raised the issue of fire sticks.

Anyway, I accept that people who subscribe to Sky Sports or BT Sport already have newer TVs, so yes, the Scart/HDMI issue is not relevant.

I had not appreciated that about 99% of the UK population had fast broadband speeds right now. I guess the position regarding psople being left out of coverage as portrayed on this forum was not correct.

So all that needs to be done now is for the streaming technology to be improved. Clearly there are still problems (not that I have personally encountered any) judging by the number of people still apparently having issues with it.
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I merely pointed out how easy it is to make any TV manufactured after about 2005 “smart”.
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I merely pointed out how easy it is to make any TV manufactured after about 2005 “smart”.
It was a valid comment, jfman. I’m sure that Hugh will accept that.

Had I said it of course….
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It was a valid comment, jfman. I’m sure that Hugh will accept that.

Had I said it of course….
I accepted his point - your point had no relevancy, which is why I was questioning it...
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I accepted his point - your point had no relevancy, which is why I was questioning it...
I don’t know what you are on about, mate, but honestly, I don’t really care. It’s just not worth the time.
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It’s your age - don’t worry about it…
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