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Old 21-01-2021, 17:56   #16
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Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office

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Going to be interesting how Biden deals with this.
He won't have to, Antifa is just an "idea"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...a-what-we-know
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Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office

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Yes, because it's just like Cambodia in the 70s.

Get a grip...
I used scare quotes, to emphasise that the word "camps" wasn't to be taken literally.
Are you denying these things are not going on, in the name of things like "diversity training", "race based affinity groups", "race based caucuses", where white people are to blame for everything?
These are attempts at "re-education". Of course re-educating people not to murder 8 year old kids is not going to happen, is it?
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For white people to take part in anti-oppression work in a way that’s useful rather than destructive or distracting, we have homework to do.
One of the formats that many activists have found useful are white caucus groups. The goal of these groups is to make focused time for “white work,” work that it’s important for white people to do separately from people of color (POC).
There’s not consensus in the broader racial justice movement about what white work is. If you ask lots of different people about what white work should be, the answers fall in a few rough categories, something that includes at a minimum:
  • Processing white feelings: working through emotions that often come up for white people like sadness, shame, paralysis, confusion, denial, etc.
  • Retraining: learning new behaviors, concepts, missing histories, and ways of seeing that are hidden from us in white supremacy.
  • Action to shift power: taking action to redistribute resources, change who’s in power, alter institutions, etc, etc.
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Ultimately, caucus work is about learning how to decenter “whiteness and its toxic effects, and to counter this through the centering of Black, Indigenous, and People of Color, or “BIPOC”.
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Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office

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He won't have to, Antifa is just an "idea"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...a-what-we-know
FIRE & FURY Antifa mob waves chilling sign vowing REVENGE as they smash Dem HQ, burn US flags and chant ‘f*** Joe Biden’


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/138056...tland-seattle/
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Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office

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I used scare quotes, to emphasise that the word "camps" wasn't to be taken literally.
Are you denying these things are not going on, in the name of things like "diversity training", "race based affinity groups", "race based caucuses", where white people are to blame for everything?
These are attempts at "re-education". Of course re-educating people not to murder 8 year old kids is not going to happen, is it?
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BIPOC, that's the new one, I heard it for the first time last week.

Another "inclusive" acronym to add the others.
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Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office

Absolute nut jobs!
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Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office

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He won't have to, Antifa is just an "idea"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...a-what-we-know
That's right though isn't it? Antifa isn't a coherent organisation even loosely. It's just a set of multiple people that form in different cities and cause trouble in some of them.

As your article says Trump's own FBI Director said that.
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Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office

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That's right though isn't it? Antifa isn't a coherent organisation even loosely. It's just a set of multiple people that form in different cities and cause trouble in some of them.

As your article says Trump's own FBI Director said that.
There may not be a national command and control, but there will be organisers and they will be organised in the targets they make and the actions they do. Of course the outliers will also be there but they will follow the organised element.

They’re not just a bunch of plucky individuals.
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Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office

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I used scare quotes, to emphasise that the word "camps" wasn't to be taken literally.
Are you denying these things are not going on, in the name of things like "diversity training", "race based affinity groups", "race based caucuses", where white people are to blame for everything?
These are attempts at "re-education". Of course re-educating people not to murder 8 year old kids is not going to happen, is it?
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"scare" quotes?

You use so many "", it’s hard to tell if they are "scare", "gishgalloping", "hyperbolic over-exaggeration", or just plain ""’s...
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Old 21-01-2021, 20:23   #24
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"scare" quotes?

You use so many "", it’s hard to tell if they are "scare", "gishgalloping", "hyperbolic over-exaggeration", or just plain ""’s...
Are these type of compulsory re-training sessions for white people taking place, yes or no?
Google has over 2 million references to "racial affinity caucus".
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Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office

I see Qanon are starting to question themselves...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-55746304
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BBC News - Biden inauguration leaves QAnon believers in disarray
Followers of the baseless QAnon conspiracy theory are divided after Joe Biden's inauguration confounded their predictions that Donald Trump would remain president in order to punish his enemies in the "deep state".

Many reacted with shock and despair as Joe Biden was sworn in as the 46th US president.

"I just want to throw up," said one in a popular chat on the Telegram messaging app. "I'm so sick of all the disinformation and false hope."
Maybe there's hope for a few of them yet...
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Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office

I saw pictures of some of them in front of the TV with popcorn because they thought Inauguration day would be the moment it all pays off. All the former Presidents + Biden would be arrested and Trump would appear to take the oath for a 2nd time and all the crimes of the deep state would be exposed. Brilliant stuff.
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Are these type of compulsory re-training sessions for white people taking place, yes or no?
Google has over 2 million references to "racial affinity caucus".
There are 43 million references to ‘Trump white supremacy", 4.8 million references to ‘Republican vote fixing", over 8 million for "ivanka trump eats babies", and over 4 million for "Mitch McConnell Russian agent" - what’s your point?
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There are 43 million references to ‘Trump white supremacy", 4.8 million references to ‘Republican vote fixing", over 8 million for "ivanka trump eats babies", and over 4 million for "Mitch McConnell Russian agent" - what’s your point?
My list is of real world actual events, eg the one arranged by the City of Seattle.
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Racial affinity group meetings, or caucuses, can be effective tools for human service agencies to address cultural responsiveness or shift their organizational paradigm toward antiracism. The development of such caucuses is seldom undertaken, however, often due to concerns about resources and the difficulty of envisioning the concrete benefits. This article describes the formation, implementation, and functioning of a White antiracism caucus, facilitated by the authors, in a large social service agency.
Harvard - Office of Diversity and Inclusion
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The Office of Diversity and Inclusion offers ongoing opportunities for the Harvard Chan community – students, faculty, and staff – to participate in a series of race-based affinity group sessions.
So no re-education going on at the campus?
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Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office

I’m seeing too many references to Trump. Move on people. This thread is about Biden and his next 100 days in office.
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Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office

Can we spin off a Trump's legacy thread? Or is discussing that just off-limits in general?
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