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Old 22-01-2024, 17:52   #61
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Re: Virgin TV (2024)

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Virgin Stream, Sky Stream Puck etc don't quite seem like the dark ages.
Which don't have +1 channels anyway
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Old 22-01-2024, 17:55   #62
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Virgin Stream, Sky Stream Puck etc don't quite seem like the dark ages.
Well those streaming devices would likely have catch up and again +1 channels wouldn't be needed.

I just think they are a waste of band2idth and came at time before DVRs became the norm and catch up and on demand weren't really much compared to what they are now.
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Which don't have +1 channels anyway
The comment I replied to did not mention +1 channels. My reply, therefore, was not about +1 channels, merely about newer devices from Sky & Virgin not having a recording facility without being from the dark ages.

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Well those streaming devices would likely have catch up and again +1 channels wouldn't be needed.

I just think they are a waste of band2idth and came at time before DVRs became the norm and catch up and on demand weren't really much compared to what they are now.
But they are some of the newer devices and certainly not from the dark ages.
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The comment I replied to did not mention +1 channels. My reply, therefore, was not about +1 channels, merely about newer devices from Sky & Virgin not having a recording facility without being from the dark ages.

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But they are some of the newer devices and certainly not from the dark ages.
I was talking about normal cable and sky boxes not streaming ones.
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Re: Virgin TV (2024)

As stated - both VM's and Sky's latest products do NOT have any recording facilties.

Both do have catch-up and it was said they don't need +1 channels. But both Sky's and VM's current linear boxes have the same catch-up apps as their current streaming boxes.

If the arguement is that if the stream boxes don't need +1 channels - then neither do SkyQ or the VM 360.

Nowadays, DVR seems to be from the dark ages - but UK Catch Up services do not provide a full catch up service.
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Still don't understand, why if your route of choice is streaming, why would they offer a recording choice. However I look at it it seems pointless.
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I was talking about normal cable and sky boxes not streaming ones.
Fair enough but that wasn't clear from "If anyone still has a Virgin or Sky box that can't record then it must be from the dark ages". The newer streaming boxes still pass as cable and sky boxes and don't have a recording facility. I don't have a horse in the +1 or the recording facility race.
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Still don't understand, why if your route of choice is streaming, why would they offer a recording choice. However I look at it it seems pointless.
I was once on the testing for Vodafones TV box that ultimately never lauched. It used an aerial for the main channels and WiFi for the pr3mium channels but with the ability to record programmes that were stored remotely on servers in Germany. BBC and ITV couldn't record but their catch up apps were available. It worked well and meant you could str3am recordings when not at home. This was around 2015. It worked well but a decision was taken mere weeks before launch to cancel it.

I still like to have DVR facilities on my Q or Virgin boxes to keep some films and shows. You never know when the streaming services will remove them. But with all the options available now +1 channels do seem rather redundant.
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Old 22-01-2024, 23:30   #69
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If the ďbenefitĒ of streaming is you only pay for what you watch (not actually true, but Iíll grant this latitude briefly) why should Virgin include them in their packages?

Anyone can buy a fire stick, a Roku or cast from their phone.
When they have watchlists and a decent EPG for the Freeview channels while they still exist, Iíll agree with you.

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This is not correct, in fact some have no capability to record at all.
Then use the on demand option.
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Old 23-01-2024, 04:03   #70
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No information on any thing new coming for V6, TV360 boxes.

But I have been told that "200+ Channels are set to be added" to Virgin Media Stream boxes within the next THREE weeks.

https://mediaboyukblog.blogspot.com/...ls-set-to.html

I did not even know about Sky Sports Red Button button launching via TV360 boxes until after it did happen.
Subscription pack codes have been added for 150 extra channels on Stream in the Inclusive channels, Essential Entertainment and Kids packs. Pack codes being added isn't definitive proof of the IPTV streams being added, so that will need to be confirmed. A provisional list available at https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com/

The additional channels seem to include quite a few +1 timeshifts so, yeah, some of the user comments in this thread about Stream not having +1s didn't age well.
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When they have watchlists and a decent EPG for the Freeview channels while they still exist, Iíll agree with you.
Donít people have EPGs on their freeview/freesat compatible TVs? Or indeed, turn over to whatever HDMI port their Virgin/Sky STB is on ďwhile they still existĒ (as you put it).

Youíre selling us a pup here, OB. The big advantage for subscribers was supposed to be we werenít subsidising crap. Now we (all pay-tv subscribers on all platforms, including streaming) are paying more, getting less and the answer is for Virgin and Sky to give them a leg up?
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Donít people have EPGs on their freeview/freesat compatible TVs? Or indeed, turn over to whatever HDMI port their Virgin/Sky STB is on ďwhile they still existĒ (as you put it).

Youíre selling us a pup here, OB. The big advantage for subscribers was supposed to be we werenít subsidising crap. Now we (all pay-tv subscribers on all platforms, including streaming) are paying more, getting less and the answer is for Virgin and Sky to give them a leg up?
The Freeview EPG is not that good, though, jfman. They are not up to the standard of Virginís or Skyís and donít let you see very far ahead.

As for the streamers, I have more good choices than I ever had before. You are only getting less on the TV channels.

Sport is a different issue.
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The Freeview EPG is not that good, though, jfman. They are not up to the standard of Virginís or Skyís and donít let you see very far ahead.
Iím confused why on one hand itís dated and on the way out yet itís essential and only Sky and Virgin (themselves, on the way out) must step to give streamers the quality platforms to be on.

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As for the streamers, I have more good choices than I ever had before. You are only getting less on the TV channels.
And paying through the nose for it, OB. To the end user ďthe TV channelsĒ is a meaningless distinction - less content is less content whether viewed on demand or otherwise.

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As stated - both VM's and Sky's latest products do NOT have any recording facilties.

Both do have catch-up and it was said they don't need +1 channels. But both Sky's and VM's current linear boxes have the same catch-up apps as their current streaming boxes.

If the arguement is that if the stream boxes don't need +1 channels - then neither do SkyQ or the VM 360.

Nowadays, DVR seems to be from the dark ages - but UK Catch Up services do not provide a full catch up service.
...and don't have QuickView or always provide subtitles.
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