23-10-2023, 22:45
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Re: The energy crisis
Not very smart are they? Lol
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24-10-2023, 02:40
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Re: The energy crisis
Well yes, presumably they will become dumb meters that you need to read.
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The government claims this replacement exercise will cost ‘about’ £2 for each household
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In what world ?
I doubt that would cover the meter cost, let alone the engineer time.
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24-10-2023, 09:06
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Re: The energy crisis
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Well yes, presumably they will become dumb meters that you need to read.
In what world ?
I doubt that would cover the meter cost, let alone the engineer time.
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I think they might mean every household in the country making the cost tens of millions
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24-10-2023, 12:08
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Re: The energy crisis
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I think they might mean every household in the country making the cost tens of millions
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Yes, because heaven forbid the utility company will take the hit in profits by funding the meter themselves.
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24-10-2023, 12:44
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Re: The energy crisis
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I think they might mean every household in the country making the cost tens of millions
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I think they do, but even still what - 28 million households?
£8 wouldn’t pay someone to cross your door, let alone start playing around with meters and equipment, test, and leave. Their hourly rate would be far in excess of this, before anyone even adds the cost of new meters/modules.
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24-10-2023, 13:13
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Re: The energy crisis
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I think they do, but even still what - 28 million households?
£8 wouldn’t pay someone to cross your door, let alone start playing around with meters and equipment, test, and leave. Their hourly rate would be far in excess of this, before anyone even adds the cost of new meters/modules.
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Would they just post it and the user plugs it in, in place of the old smart meter?
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24-10-2023, 13:13
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Re: The energy crisis
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I think they do, but even still what - 28 million households?
£8 wouldn’t pay someone to cross your door, let alone start playing around with meters and equipment, test, and leave. Their hourly rate would be far in excess of this, before anyone even adds the cost of new meters/modules.
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Probably a daft question but .....Couldn't the change over be done by a remote software change/update. I know when my smart meter was playing up Octopus gave it a long distance kick to make it behave.
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24-10-2023, 13:23
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Re: The energy crisis
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Would they just post it and the user plugs it in, in place of the old smart meter?
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That's only the remote user display. The actual smart meter is hard wired into the main power feed to the fusebox.
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24-10-2023, 13:39
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Re: The energy crisis
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Probably a daft question but .....Couldn't the change over be done by a remote software change/update. I know when my smart meter was playing up Octopus gave it a long distance kick to make it behave.
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If they’re wired for 2G or 3G and they need 4G they will require different hardware. I guess there might be a swappable module inside them but it might mean a full replacement.
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24-10-2023, 13:46
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Re: The energy crisis
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I guess there might be a swappable module inside them
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That's what the article says.
I've just been to look at mine. The swappable module is not going to be cheap, and is not user replaceable (the screws have tamper-evident seals on)
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24-10-2023, 19:02
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Re: The energy crisis
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I think they do, but even still what - 28 million households?
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I dont think all 28 million have smart meters, esp older ones.
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24-10-2023, 19:07
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Re: The energy crisis
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I dont think all 28 million have smart meters, esp older ones.
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Apologies - I think Jaymoss was saying they were using the figure for all households (28 million-ish) when they arrived at £2, and just not those with smart meters (around 7m).
So the whole cost of the exercise £56m instead of £14m. However, it still seems very small.
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24-10-2023, 19:11
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by jfman
Apologies - I think Jaymoss was saying they were using the figure for all households (28 million-ish) when they arrived at £2, and just not those with smart meters (around 7m).
So the whole cost of the exercise £56m instead of £14m. However, it still seems very small.
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24-10-2023, 19:12
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Re: The energy crisis
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Originally Posted by jfman
Apologies - I think Jaymoss was saying they were using the figure for all households (28 million-ish) when they arrived at £2, and just not those with smart meters (around 7m).
So the whole cost of the exercise £56m instead of £14m. However, it still seems very small.
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Depends how they cost it
If they cost total cost of the job then it will be a lot more but if they factor in the guys are working for them anyway so labour costs are not included then it will be only the cost of the parts. Selling £2 per household costs is a lot more palatable that a tenner +
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24-10-2023, 19:25
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Re: The energy crisis
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Depends how they cost it
If they cost total cost of the job then it will be a lot more but if they factor in the guys are working for them anyway so labour costs are not included then it will be only the cost of the parts. Selling £2 per household costs is a lot more palatable that a tenner +
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