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Re: Charlie Farley
The Russians had the right idea about royalty.
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07-05-2023, 21:11
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Re: Charlie Farley
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The Russians had the right idea about royalty.
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You’re just being a Richard now…
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07-05-2023, 22:59
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Legally she will never be Queen. If/when Charles dies the Monarchy will be passed on to William. She won't even be referred to as Kings Mother.
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She is Queen, because that is the correct style and title for a King’s wife. Constitutionally she is Queen Consort, not Queen Regnant (as Elizabeth II was) but it is not typical to always say ‘Consort’.
Phil the Greek was a Prince because in noble rank a King outranks a Queen, and as Elizabeth inherited the British Crown he could never be made King without also being made co-regent. That would have been unacceptable because he had no claim to the British throne. The only time that has ever been done is in 1689 when Parliament contrived to have James II/VII deposed by declaring he’d abandoned the Kingdom and installed his daughter in his place as Mary II and her Husband William of Orange as William III of England (The Scottish parliament cooperated and also declared him William II of Scotland otherwise the Union of the Crowns would have ended there and then, less than 90 years after it began).
Though William was in the line of succession as a grandson of Charles II, Mary’s claim was stronger as James’ daughter. So it suited Parliament to crown them both jointly because they got the most legitimate heir in Mary and a massive Protestant and enemy of France in William.
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09-05-2023, 16:33
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Re: Charlie Farley
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That’s like saying the current (or any of the previous) Prime Minister(s) is/are not your PM - they are whether one likes or not…
It’s not a personal choice (much as we’d like it to be), just a matter of fact.
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I think you have misinterpreted Jaymoss's comment. He is making a symbolic statement, rather than a literal, legal one. I am 100% with him on this.
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18-05-2023, 17:45
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Re: Charlie Farley
The Middletons went belly up...
https://news.sky.com/story/princess-...vency-12883612
Carole and Michael Middleton, as future Queen mother/father, should be offered a 1-2 million per year, the taxpayer can afford to feed another two semi-royal bums.
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18-05-2023, 18:17
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Re: Charlie Farley
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You're funny
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19-05-2023, 09:05
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by Mr K
The Russians had the right idea about royalty.
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Really? Look at what they have instead.Doesn't seem any better a proposition.
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19-05-2023, 10:01
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by Maggy
Really? Look at what they have instead.Doesn't seem any better a proposition.
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Maybe France is the better example
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19-05-2023, 10:10
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Maybe France is the better example
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I take your remark as rhetoric, Ian. You wouldn’t wsnt to chop off hi head, would you?
Maybe surgically widen the gap between his eyes!
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19-05-2023, 10:48
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Re: Charlie Farley
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I take your remark as rhetoric, Ian. You wouldn’t wsnt to chop off hi head, would you?
Maybe surgically widen the gap between his eyes!
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Only in a metaphorical sense
Removing the Monarchy is important as it is the keystone that holds our rigid class system in place. Without it, the class system would crumble over time.
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20-05-2023, 16:44
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Re: Charlie Farley
These "Not my King" idiots should note that as a British subject he IS your King.
He can only stop being King if you emigrate to a non commonweatlh country.
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20-05-2023, 22:40
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by Hom3r
These "Not my King" idiots should note that as a British subject he IS your King.
He can only stop being King if you emigrate to a non commonweatlh country.
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You are missing the nuance and symbolism. Definition of "my":
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of or relating to me or myself especially as possessor, agent, object of an action, or familiar person
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He may be yours but he is not mine. Also, there is no need to be insulting about it ....
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21-05-2023, 13:35
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by ianch99
Only in a metaphorical sense
Removing the Monarchy is important as it is the keystone that holds our rigid class system in place. Without it, the class system would crumble over time.
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I agree that the monarchy holds the rigid class system in place, although Charlie might weaken it because he’s such a Burke.
Though, if you look at countries without monarchy, say Austria (which I know something about) a new hierarchy and thus class structure emerges because of the honours system. Elites always set something up for themselves.
Sin, if we lose the monarchy, we lose the tourist attraction and the substitution won’t benefit us one jot.
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21-05-2023, 16:19
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Re: Charlie Farley
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He may be yours but he is not mine. Also, there is no need to be insulting about it ....
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Well yes he is, simply saying otherwise doesnt make it so, any more then you can break the law and claim "its not my law".
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22-05-2023, 20:44
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Well yes he is, simply saying otherwise doesnt make it so, any more then you can break the law and claim "its not my law".
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Good point.
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