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06-06-2022, 21:03
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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148 votes against Johnson. As a % of the party that is a worse performance than Margaret Thatcher against Michael Heseltine, or May or Major.
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06-06-2022, 21:04
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
A Government running on fumes.
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06-06-2022, 21:04
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
tory civil war incoming
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06-06-2022, 21:08
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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A dead man walking.
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Careful now Den, don't think hes competent enough to be trusted with walking
Perfect result for the opposition. Fatally damaged but still there.
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06-06-2022, 21:11
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
A majority of 63 for Boris, any win is a good win.
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06-06-2022, 21:12
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
So any Conservative thinking of defying the government will maybe have 147 others supporting them. Happy days ahead.
And there still going to get stuffed in the upcoming by-elections.
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06-06-2022, 21:14
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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A majority of 63 for Boris, any win is a good win.
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Over 40% of his own MPs don't have confidence in him, that's good ?
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06-06-2022, 21:14
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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A majority of 63 for Boris, any win is a good win.
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like Thatcher Major and May you mean that won by more but gone soon after
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06-06-2022, 21:17
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
See what happens after the by-elections I guess.
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06-06-2022, 21:31
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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See what happens after the by-elections I guess.
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My thoughts are not a good result for the cons,the people don't like it when their previous mp turns out to be a wrong un.
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06-06-2022, 21:33
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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A Government running on fumes.
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Such is the history of the Tory party. The party most likely to bring down a Tory government is the Tory party.
Given a massive majority, and a mandate to go out there and pass any law they want, they piss it all up the wall, and bollocks to any pandemic excuses. They screwed that up, unnecessary lockdowns, tanking the economy, party gate, Boris will unlikely make it to the next election meaning some Westminster centric pro-remain candidate will probably win the leadership destroying the gains made in 2019.
All that said I still couldn’t look at Labour until they got rid of Starmer and could define what a woman was. In fact the Tories best chances at the next election would for Starmer to still be Labour leader. They may just still hang on to some Red Wall seats by pitching against the man that wanted to overturn Brexit.
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See what happens after the by-elections I guess.
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I would expect them to lose both.
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06-06-2022, 21:36
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
The Tories would be mad to go into the next election talking about Brexit unless Starmer made it a manifesto commitment to overturn it. You would have Labour talking about the NHS and the cost of living crisis and the Tories talking about an election issue from 2019 that the country sees as settled.
Starmer is a non-entity. The expectation was that he would detoxify Labour from the association with Corbyn but lose the next election having cut the Tory Majority. The only reason he stands a chance is because of the cost of living crisis along with the Tories shooting themselves in the foot. I don't think Labour has anyone that much better but quite a few people who aren't worse so a 'Beergate' fine might test that theory.
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06-06-2022, 21:43
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Such is the history of the Tory party. The party most likely to bring down a Tory government is the Tory party.
Given a massive majority, and a mandate to go out there and pass any law they want, they piss it all up the wall, and bollocks to any pandemic excuses. They screwed that up, unnecessary lockdowns, tanking the economy, party gate, Boris will unlikely make it to the next election meaning some Westminster centric pro-remain candidate will probably win the leadership destroying the gains made in 2019.
All that said I still couldn’t look at Labour until they got rid of Starmer and could define what a woman was. In fact the Tories best chances at the next election would for Starmer to still be Labour leader. They may just still hang on to some Red Wall seats by pitching against the man that wanted to overturn Brexit.
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I would expect them to lose both.
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Well they've got you on side in the culture wars.
As for the economy tanking it's of their own making.
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06-06-2022, 22:17
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
Johnson should withdraw the Whip from those who voted against him…
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06-06-2022, 22:29
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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