27-05-2021, 00:13
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Re: Coronavirus
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Are we doing apologies for inaccuracies in this thread? Wow.... this could take some time.
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Give me five minutes and I'll do a find and replace on my Hancocks. 
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27-05-2021, 00:47
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#5357
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Coronavirus
The state broadcaster earning it's (legislative) crust with a weak 'fact check'.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/57254305
The whole point of a fact check is surely to identify if the claim is correct or not, as opposed to offer defensive lines for the Government around dubious technicalities. And comparisons to opinion polling - which a know we all love on CF.
Generally most genuine fact checking services offer their own conclusion on the claims made - notably the state broadcaster does not.
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27-05-2021, 05:58
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#5358
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The Dark Satanic Mills
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
Are we doing apologies for inaccuracies in this thread? Wow.... this could take some time.
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Well previous behaviour on here suggests you will be pulled up for anything you wrongly suggested / predicted in excess of one year ago.
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27-05-2021, 09:44
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Well previous behaviour on here suggests you will be pulled up for anything you wrongly suggested / predicted in excess of one year ago.
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More recently, as well… 
Or are you suggesting that blatant contradictions/falsehoods previously stated by posters should be ignored, in case the posters get upset by someone pointing out their contradictions/falsehoods? 
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Last edited by Hugh; 27-05-2021 at 09:52.
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27-05-2021, 09:56
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#5360
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Well previous behaviour on here suggests you will be pulled up for anything you wrongly suggested / predicted in excess of one year ago.
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Not quite sure of the posts you are referring to but my mantra has been fairly consistent - lockdowns were always inevitable, Government is broadly incompetent.
Others have clutched at various straws throughout the pandemic burying their heads in the sand from these quite obvious realities.
Any predictions of deaths, hospitalisations etc. are based on the prevailing circumstances at the time - not with the foresight of the many interventions the Government have made throughout the last 15 months.
Last edited by jfman; 27-05-2021 at 09:59.
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27-05-2021, 10:32
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Re: Coronavirus
*gasp* you mean SAGE got it wrong too?
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27-05-2021, 12:15
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Coronavirus
Can we keep this thread for Coronavirus news updates, please, and put any further comments about Dominic Cummings and the Committee hearings in a separate thread (see below)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33710049
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27-05-2021, 12:50
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Re: Coronavirus
1 in 10 hospitalisations with Indian variant have been "double jabbed". Oh dear.
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27-05-2021, 13:00
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
1 in 10 hospitalisations with Indian variant have been "double jabbed". Oh dear.
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But only 10 hospitalisations so that's 1 person. That figure on it's own really isn't helpful or useful.
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27-05-2021, 13:09
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The Dark Satanic Mills
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh
But only 10 hospitalisations so that's 1 person. That figure on it's own really isn't helpful or useful.
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don't destroy the narrative.
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27-05-2021, 13:11
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
1 in 10 hospitalisations with Indian variant have been "double jabbed". Oh dear.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tweetiepooh
But only 10 hospitalisations so that's 1 person. That figure on it's own really isn't helpful or useful.
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It's the way he tells em
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27-05-2021, 13:47
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
1 in 10 hospitalisations with Indian variant have been "double jabbed". Oh dear.
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Considering that the Pfizer vaccine is 88% effective against that strain, sounds about right...
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The BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine was 88 percent effective against symptomatic disease from the Indian variant two weeks after the second dose, while the Oxford/AstraZeneca was 60 percent effective.
These results suggest a slight drop in efficacy compared with the U.K. variant, where the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine is 93 percent effective after two doses and the Oxford/AstraZeneca jab is 66 percent effective.
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https://www.politico.eu/article/what...ant-in-the-uk/
This is why I will still be social distancing/wearing a mask in shops, even though I have had two jabs - the vaccine reduces the risk, not eliminates it.
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Last edited by Hugh; 27-05-2021 at 14:13.
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27-05-2021, 14:00
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh
But only 10 hospitalisations so that's 1 person. That figure on it's own really isn't helpful or useful.
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Not helpful at all without the context of when and how far apart the jabs were and when was the last given.
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27-05-2021, 14:37
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Re: Coronavirus
Bolton who were the first to be badly hit by this new variant do not have an in depth breakdown on the Vaccine status of those who have been admitted to hospital but they have published full figures of how the virus is effecting their area.
BOLTON JOINT STRATEGIC NEEDS ASSESSMENT
I guess we will just have to wait a tad longer to hear how the increased cases of Covid 19 versus vaccines/lack of is effecting the NHS
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Last edited by joglynne; 27-05-2021 at 14:40.
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27-05-2021, 15:25
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#5370
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Architect of Ideas
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
don't destroy the narrative.
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If there's one thing I'm certain of it's that the Covid deniers/downplayers of the forum aren't going to destroy anything other than any reasonable prospects of getting out of lockdown/restrictions soon.
Vaccine escape is already here. Further mutations are only going to cause vaccine efficacy to diminish further.
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