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Re: Charlie Farley
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Well yes he is, simply saying otherwise doesnt make it so, any more then you can break the law and claim "its not my law".
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You are being literal. I was being figurative but everyone on this thread knows this
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23-05-2023, 12:33
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
I agree that the monarchy holds the rigid class system in place, although Charlie might weaken it because he’s such a Burke.
Though, if you look at countries without monarchy, say Austria (which I know something about) a new hierarchy and thus class structure emerges because of the honours system. Elites always set something up for themselves.
Sin, if we lose the monarchy, we lose the tourist attraction and the substitution won’t benefit us one jot.
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Let's get the old "we lose the tourist attraction" trope out of the way first. The ex-royal palaces of Versailles and, which you should know well, The Hofburg in Vienna are ones of the most visited tourist attractions in Europe.
As for your replacement theory, the main difference is that you can legislate to moderate any artificial structures that try and form. This is something you cannot do when the monarchy is effectively outside of the constraints you might put in place for the population. For example, I believe no inheritance tax was paid on personal wealth handed down from the late Queen. You also have the anomaly that is the Crown Estates & Duchy of Cornwall - again outside of the normal governance applied to the population as a whole.
For example,
https://www.accountancydaily.co/pac-...ments-medieval
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An aide to Prince Charles has admitted that his estate, the Duchy of Cornwall, has a 'very unusual' tax status but denied that it was a 'medieval anomaly' in evidence to the Public Accounts Committee (PAC).
William Nye, Prince Charles' private secretary, described it as a 'private estate' which is 'a force for social good' and could not be compared to a conventional corporation or commercial entity. While Prince Charles voluntarily pays income tax on the Duchy's annual surplus the estate itself is exempt from capital gains and corporation taxes and is worth an estimated £762m.
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24-05-2023, 10:16
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Re: Charlie Farley
Oh yes let's blame the royal family for all the ills of the country instead of the present government that really has the power to change everyone's lives for the better.Not exactly doing a terrific job at present are they?
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24-05-2023, 10:48
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by Maggy
Oh yes let's blame the royal family for all the ills of the country instead of the present government that really has the power to change everyone's lives for the better.Not exactly doing a terrific job at present are they?
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No one is doing this
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24-05-2023, 11:54
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by ianch99
No one is doing this
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Correct.
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29-05-2023, 12:07
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by Hom3r
These "Not my King" idiots should note that as a British subject he IS your King.
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William & Kate will be OUR King and Queen too mate. The future Queen mother and Queen father left a gift for you
Mod edit (Chris): Please take care with image sizes. If you choose to re-upload the one I’ve removed, use the option to re-size it.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...sold-tr2t2qf0k
It's only £220K. Cough up pronto! Balloons are complimentary.
Who is the idiot mate?
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29-05-2023, 18:18
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by Ms NTL
William & Kate will be OUR King and Queen too mate. The future Queen mother and Queen father left a gift for you
Mod edit (Chris): Please take care with image sizes. If you choose to re-upload the one I’ve removed, use the option to re-size it.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...sold-tr2t2qf0k
It's only £220K. Cough up pronto! Balloons are complimentary.
Who is the idiot mate?
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I'm afraid that is how the system works. They spend, we pay. Don't worry, I am sure you could wave a little flag if you have one
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29-05-2023, 19:22
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Re: Charlie Farley
This has nothing at all to do with the royal family - it was coronavirus loan from Natwest.
I'm sure lots of [business] people took them out, and I'm quite sure that others failed as well.
The company was formed over 35 years ago, and basically failed due to the pandemic, not the first.
The fact they were Kates parents appears totally irrelevant, unless you think the royals should have bailed them out ?
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29-05-2023, 20:00
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Re: Charlie Farley
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This has nothing at all to do with the royal family - it was coronavirus loan from Natwest.
I'm sure lots of [business] people took them out, and I'm quite sure that others failed as well.
The company was formed over 35 years ago, and basically failed due to the pandemic, not the first.
The fact they were Kates parents appears totally irrelevant, unless you think the royals should have bailed them out ?
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Bottom bit all depends on if it was a viable business or not
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29-05-2023, 20:09
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We used to get stuff for our kids’ parties from Party Pieces all the time. It was a good idea, lots of party ideas all in one place and it wasn’t a rip off either.
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29-05-2023, 21:14
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Originally Posted by ianch99
I'm afraid that is how the system works. They spend, we pay. Don't worry, I am sure you could wave a little flag if you have one
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I want the balloons!
Octopus promised me a fluffy octopus, I never got one!
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I'm afraid that is how the system works. They spend, we pay. Don't worry, I am sure you could wave a little flag if you have one
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Exactly. Why don't they put one of their houses for sale to cover the loses?
James Matthews (Pipa's husband ) bailed James Middleton umpteen times. Millions....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...istration.html
James's great ideas:personalised marshmallows, Nice Cakes, Nice Wine and Nice Group ...and of course Ella & Co – a company for the ‘happiness and wellbeing’ of dogs. All belly up
Imagine you and I, asking Venture capital managers to fund such daft ideas, like James's, they will tell us to get lost. But James has the links...
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This has nothing at all to do with the royal family - it was coronavirus loan from Natwest.
I'm sure lots of [business] people took them out, and I'm quite sure that others failed as well.
The company was formed over 35 years ago, and basically failed due to the pandemic, not the first.
The fact they were Kates parents appears totally irrelevant, unless you think the royals should have bailed them out ?
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It was a joke Paul. Free balloons for £220K?
They can sell one of their houses to cover the bill or ask Matthews (again) to pay up
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Bottom bit all depends on if it was a viable business or not
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They got a loan, they have the money, just pay up!
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30-05-2023, 00:24
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Oh yes let's blame the royal family for all the ills of the country instead of the present government that really has the power to change everyone's lives for the better.Not exactly doing a terrific job at present are they?
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Austerity? Covid? Putin?
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If you took everything from the Royal family how much of the national debt would be paid off?Apparently they have around $34 billion in assets..I suspect that it just wouldn't be enough to help out..
Government debt? Hard to find out the total.
This is the best I could find.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...nment-debt-uk/
So I guess raiding Charley's coffers just won't cover it..
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Re: Charlie Farley
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Austerity? Covid? Putin?
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You missed one out
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Re: Charlie Farley
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You missed one out
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Ah, yes. Labour’s obsession with cakes!
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