02-03-2023, 18:42
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Sue Gray
So she now works for labour !!! Says it all
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02-03-2023, 19:13
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Re: Sue Gray
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So she now works for labour !!! Says it all
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Rats and sinking ships and all that....
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02-03-2023, 20:05
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Re: Sue Gray
Well, she was a civil servant so wasn't really going down with the ship either way.
People will try to spin it as vindication for Johnson but Grey not only wasn't working for Labour at the time but was appointed by the Government themselves.
She was appointed because they needed somebody widely respected after their initial appointment was also mixed up in Partygate. I don't think it's a surprise that a party which is looking to be in Government wants to recruit someone respected and senior that's worked in Government.
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02-03-2023, 20:11
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Re: Sue Gray
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Civil servants are politically neutral and independent of government.
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02-03-2023, 20:18
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Re: Sue Gray
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Civil servants are politically neutral and independent of government.
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They can of course resign and become political. Just like David Frost did for the Tories....
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03-03-2023, 10:54
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Re: Sue Gray
I don't think she was a Labour shill or anything like that, but it is an extremely silly move by Starmer. Just bad optics.
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03-03-2023, 10:57
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Re: Sue Gray
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I don't think she was a Labour shill or anything like that, but it is an extremely silly move by Starmer. Just bad optics.
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I think it's a good one. He's got an experienced professional on board.
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03-03-2023, 11:11
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Re: Sue Gray
Did not Jonathan Powell, who left a senior job at the Foreign Office to become Tony Blair’s chief of staff.
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03-03-2023, 11:53
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Re: Sue Gray
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I don't think she was a Labour shill or anything like that, but it is an extremely silly move by Starmer. Just bad optics.
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I am guessing he has decided it's worth the hit for him to have her on board. If you think there are so few people on the front bench with experience in Government, they're all pretty lightweight, that having someone senior who does is worthwhile.
Also, the Tories blabbing on about Partygate again probably isn't a smart move on their part either.
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03-03-2023, 11:56
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Re: Sue Gray
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If you believe that guess you will believe anything
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03-03-2023, 12:03
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Re: Sue Gray
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And you believe too many conspiracy theories..
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03-03-2023, 13:19
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Re: Sue Gray
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So she now works for labour !!! Says it all
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I suppose it might, if I had any clue who "Sue Gray" was.
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03-03-2023, 17:54
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Re: Sue Gray
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And you believe too many conspiracy theories..
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History shows that you should not trust anything that the press , MPs , or anyone else say. And I very much include conspiracy theories. , Fact check from many sources. More or less on bbc4 shows that everything should not be taken at face value for a example
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03-03-2023, 18:13
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Re: Sue Gray
bent as a nine bob note
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03-03-2023, 22:12
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Re: Sue Gray
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bent as a nine bob note
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So she now works for labour !!! Says it all
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Rats and sinking ships and all that....
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If you believe that guess you will believe anything
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