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Old 18-08-2022, 16:41   #4126
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Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

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It’s basically because the big unions, who laughingly ‘represent’ working people, are preventing modernisation and increased productivity. And yes, management are too weak to take them on, as are governments of various hues. The whole country needs to smarten up and buckle down to achieve better wealth, and somehow we have to debt rid of the malaise that prevents us from acting.
We have some of the toughest union laws in the world, the union bosses can't call a strike without a large turnout in favour of it, modernisation means people getting sacked so I don't blame the workers for resisting or their union for acting in their interests

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We could achieve so much, but unfortunately we have too many wreckers trying to cause disruption and failure. They don’t want success, they constantly strive to achieve failure to achieve…well, you tell me. I think Communism is their aim, and those of us who want this country to succeed must not let them win.
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You can call politicians names if you like, and that is so clever of you, but if it is that easy, why don’t you stand for election as an MP? The position of Home Secretary is one of the most important positions in government, and Labour got through a fair few in it’s last reign because they couldn’t handle it. Priti Patel works for her money, I can assure you.
How can you assure anyone that, were you there with her, what was your role, lapdog? Perhaps I'll stop calling them names when they stop calling me and millions of others lazy to try and cover up the real issues but they won't because it might mean they have to do something about it
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Old 18-08-2022, 17:11   #4127
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Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

A true test of the new PM is whether they get rid of the useless articles that are Priti Patel and Nadine Dorries. If they keep them then it's Carry on Chaos as usual.
Tbf there is a lack of any talent to replace them..
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Old 18-08-2022, 18:42   #4128
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A true test of the new PM is whether they get rid of the useless articles that are Priti Patel and Nadine Dorries. If they keep them then it's Carry on Chaos as usual.
Tbf there is a lack of any talent to replace them..
That's a very low bar you have set there, you could add many more to it including Grant Shapps and Sleepy Jacob (Rees-Mogg).
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Old 18-08-2022, 22:12   #4129
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Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

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It’s basically because the big unions, who laughingly ‘represent’ working people, are preventing modernisation and increased productivity. And yes, management are too weak to take them on, as are governments of various hues. The whole country needs to smarten up and buckle down to achieve better wealth, and somehow we have to debt rid of the malaise that prevents us from acting.

We could achieve so much, but unfortunately we have too many wreckers trying to cause disruption and failure. They don’t want success, they constantly strive to achieve failure to achieve…well, you tell me. I think Communism is their aim, and those of us who want this country to succeed must not let them win.

You can call politicians names if you like, and that is so clever of you, but if it is that easy, why don’t you stand for election as an MP? The position of Home Secretary is one of the most important positions in government, and Labour got through a fair few in it’s last reign because they couldn’t handle it. Priti Patel works for her money, I can assure you.
I've lost count how many times during this government I've heard one minister or another use the phrase "hardworking families". Seems they must have all been lying so and so's. That's why you should never vote Conservative.
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Old 19-08-2022, 08:59   #4130
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We could achieve so much, but unfortunately we have too many wreckers trying to cause disruption and failure.
We call them the Conservative Party.

How much of this great nation’s wealth and resource can be plundered into offshore tax havens, contracts worth billions tendered without competition to friends of friends. Peerages for sons of Russian KGB agents.

To accuse workers - during the biggest fall of living standards since the Second World War - of wanting communism is pure deluded fantasy Old Boy.

As Britain remains on it’s crash course to a failed state though, who knows, we might even give some communist countries a run for their worthless money.
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Old 19-08-2022, 23:23   #4131
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The prospect of PM Truss is enthusing the nation !

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LAB: 43% (+4)
CON: 28% (-2)
LDEM: 11% (-1)

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Old 20-08-2022, 01:36   #4132
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We call them the Conservative Party.

How much of this great nation’s wealth and resource can be plundered into offshore tax havens, contracts worth billions tendered without competition to friends of friends. Peerages for sons of Russian KGB agents.

To accuse workers - during the biggest fall of living standards since the Second World War - of wanting communism is pure deluded fantasy Old Boy.

As Britain remains on it’s crash course to a failed state though, who knows, we might even give some communist countries a run for their worthless money.
Biggest load of claptrap I’ve read in ages.

Now look up Labour, Barry Gardiner, Chinese spy hiring. In fact, I’ll post a story of it from earlier this year. https://news.sky.com/story/christine...m-him-12515277

So, yes that’s a Labour MP receiving £500,000 from an alleged Chinese spy.
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Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Michael Gove backs Rishi Sunak for Tory leader as he accuses Liz Truss of taking 'holiday from reality'

https://news.sky.com/story/michael-g...ality-12677032

everyone knows it gonna be Truss

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The prospect of PM Truss is enthusing the nation !


https://mobile.twitter.com/BritainEl...24899152666624
Very concerning for those who think having a new prime minister in a few weeks will make a real difference to the Conservative party brand and opinion poll position..
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Biggest load of claptrap I’ve read in ages.

Now look up Labour, Barry Gardiner, Chinese spy hiring. In fact, I’ll post a story of it from earlier this year. https://news.sky.com/story/christine...m-him-12515277

So, yes that’s a Labour MP receiving £500,000 from an alleged Chinese spy.
And yet none of that contradicts anything I said in my post.

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Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Unless you are a conservative and eligible to vote it hardly concerns the rest of us.Why not wait until there's a result and then throw rocks.
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Unless you are a conservative and eligible to vote it hardly concerns the rest of us.Why not wait until there's a result and then throw rocks.
Because the whole thing is in the public arena (as on TV last night) and the two candidates are not what I want as a paid up Conservative.
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I've lost count how many times during this government I've heard one minister or another use the phrase "hardworking families". Seems they must have all been lying so and so's. That's why you should never vote Conservative.
It's a recognition of the fact that many people do work hard.

The problem is there are lazy and disruptive people, resistant to change, who are responsible for this country's low productivity. These are the people Liz Truss was referring to.

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Because the whole thing is in the public arena (as on TV last night) and the two candidates are not what I want as a paid up Conservative.
Yes, Seph, that's because John Redwood is the only one for you!
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It's a recognition of the fact that many people do work hard.

The problem is there are lazy and disruptive people, resistant to change, who are responsible for this country's low productivity. These are the people Liz Truss was referring to.


You actually believe that shit don’t you?

Pray, tell how do these couch potatoes collectively overturn that private companies are ploughing hundreds of thousands of tons of raw sewage into our waterways? How do they solve the energy crisis? How do they create affordable housing?

The problems this country faces are created by the lack of will from politicians to solve them. Indeed, it’s profitable for their donors to not do so. However in the interim they’ve pulled the wool over the eyes of mugs like you that immigrants are the problem, now just working people.

Irony of ironies is that you’ve collapsed the capability of our great entrepreneurs to rely upon migrants (presumably not lazy) to efficiently work for them, increase productivity and pay tax in this country!

Sorry Johnny Foreigner, we were only kidding on! Please come back, all is forgiven.
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It's a recognition of the fact that many people do work hard.

The problem is there are lazy and disruptive people, resistant to change, who are responsible for this country's low productivity. These are the people Liz Truss was referring to.

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Yes, Seph, that's because John Redwood is the only one for you!
Yes, that’s right, it’s not the ongoing underinvestment as highlighted in the article I posted previously…

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Low business investment, weak management and too few commercial patents are the main factors behind Britain's weak productivity record that has been a puzzle for policymakers for years, according to new research published on Monday.

The study, by researchers at the London School of Economics and the Resolution Foundation think tank, said low business investment was the clearest difference between Britain and higher-productivity nations.

Business capital investment in Britain was 10% of gross domestic product in 2019, compared with 13% on average in the United States, Germany and France.

British business investment in research and development also lagged behind levels in other countries.
You’re gaslighting - if you continuously blame "the lazy shirkers", you make it easy for Business to not have actually invest in their people and technologies.
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