03-02-2022, 12:19
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh
Don't forget that if you've lost someone that's one too many regardless of the stats.
Covid is/was a novel virus. It was bound to cause problems both medically and epidemiologically as we had no natural immunity either as individuals or as a society.
The far east was badly hit by the 18/19/20 flu epidemic hence the tendency there to mask up in flu season. Was that due to it being bad flu or that their population was more susceptible? Maybe both, that flu killed a lot of people worldwide.
The problem is that we can't go back and try again with different approaches much though a number of "residents" of Westminster may wish they could. The approach taken was likely the sensible one given what was known at the time and the effect it did have on health services.
Going forward is going to be interesting. How will the next variant present? How do we deal with that? Remember the concern about household pets being vectors? Dogs are easy but cats? What would happen if cats were shown to be an unaffected vector? Vaccinate all the cats? Cat masks? Isolate your moggie? What if some "cute" wild critter was a vector? Imagine the outcry if need to cull off hedgehogs/voles/otters?
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Flu does kill people. But there are vaccines, and the issue is usually pre-empted well enough by vaccinating those at risk of complications if they do get flu. We didn't get that with covid and even now the vaccines are still playing catch up as they were designed for viruses with far less mutated spikes than now.
Hindsight is great and I'm sure a few would have their own ideas how to deal with it. But I think generally speaking they have tried to keep things open as much as possible whilst keeping the virus under control at hospitalisation level.
The first lockdown made perfect sense as we had little idea about the virus at all, but knew it was dangerous enough to be an issue from Italy. However, after then wiping it out to lower numbers they then decided to open up foreign holidays without much control which brought it back. The tiers were a bit of a waste of time (presumably they didn't think people might leave the tiers if the next town had pubs open and they didn't) but again seemed to be down to keeping things open as much as possible. Locking down for Alpha made sense and the lockdown along with vaccination brought the virus down but I think there they might have been a bit slower to open up, and for various reasons, chose to then open up after Delta had come in, which seems to be right. Plan B measures I'm not sure actually did anything much, but at least avoided the Goves etc wanting more...
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03-02-2022, 14:11
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth
Can't believe you're still spouting that long debunked comparison.
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I think you need to keep up, Grimmy. Omicron is not like the original strains.
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04-02-2022, 12:34
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Re: Coronavirus
Scam email received today regarding NHS passport . . .
"Coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccination - NHS - National Health Service (UK) 2022 04/02/2022
Hard Copy and Digital Covid-19 Passport
Hello 'my email address, not my name'
The NHS is performing selections for coronavirus vaccination on the basis of family genetics and medical history.
Through the certificate, the Commission intends to remove travel restrictions as entry bans, quarantine obligation, and testing.
Those holding such a document will be able to travel throughout Europe without the need to quarantine or test for COVID-19
Please confirm or reject your invitation by selecting an option below:
N H S *UK- ACCEPT Invitation > >
N H S *UK- Reject Invitation > >
Who can use this service
The Passport will be issued to all those who have been fully vaccinated against the Coronavirus, with one of the four vaccines approved by the National Medicine Agency, which are:
AstraZeneca, Pfizer, Moderna and Janssen (Johnson & Johnson)
auto generated id: a80e8612a00d2b7e0416397d012e46
The certificate will prove that its holder has been vaccinated while also containing additional information on the vaccine, as when the doses were administered, who is the manufacturer, etc.
[ 7412d47139M71l ]
You are required to reply to this invitation within 24 hours of this notification."
As you can see, my name isn't mentioned as a recipeint, only my email address.
The email address it came from is . . . NHS News Notification <news337548.181353428@>
Bloody poor show if it's legit
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04-02-2022, 14:18
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Re: Coronavirus
Just to be clear that isn't legit.
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04-02-2022, 15:18
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Damien
Just to be clear that isn't legit.
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He did start with scam email.
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04-02-2022, 23:54
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Mad Max
He did start with scam email.
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He also ended with this, which would be what Damien was replying to
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Originally Posted by Carth
Bloody poor show if it's legit
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I got something similar the other day, and just binned it.
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09-02-2022, 09:12
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Re: Coronavirus
Not really leading by example.
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Health minister Gillian Keegan apologises for continuing in-person meeting despite positive COVID lateral flow result
Health minister Gillian Keegan said she "took further precautions" after receiving her positive lateral flow test result - but continued the in-person meeting with the consent of the individuals involved.
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https://news.sky.com/story/health-mi...esult-12537038
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09-02-2022, 09:20
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
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Hope she's ok.
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09-02-2022, 09:22
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Re: Coronavirus
It's time that rule was changed. It is being broken pretty extensively, and I know that from the people in my circle and in my wife's circle.
Like the social distancing and mask wearing, it should be left to individuals to decide. Covid is no longer the undefeatable menace it once was, and Omicron is weaker too.
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Hope she's ok.
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The positive test may well be the only indication she gets of having the virus, papa.
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09-02-2022, 09:37
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Re: Coronavirus
Why didn't she do the LFT at home and wait for the result before meeting others?
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09-02-2022, 10:11
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by nffc
Why didn't she do the LFT at home and wait for the result before meeting others?
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We have to live with it now that it's just the sniffles.
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09-02-2022, 10:14
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by nffc
Why didn't she do the LFT at home and wait for the result before meeting others?
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Because she follows implicit government policy - one rule for them, one rule for the rest of the country.
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09-02-2022, 10:26
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Re: Coronavirus
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Why didn't she do the LFT at home and wait for the result before meeting others?
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Because there was probably cake at the meeting
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09-02-2022, 11:12
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Re: Coronavirus
Just had contact from someone who was at the GDip course I'm attending. They took LFT in the morning - negative, attended the day, felt grotty when home, retook test - positive.
We have a couple of the nasal only tests at home, last order delivered the ones swabbing throat I have huge difficulty with. I take them where I know I'm going to be in less controlled situation meeting others. Like the kid's meeting I attended last Saturday.
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09-02-2022, 12:34
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Because she follows implicit government policy - one rule for them, one rule for the rest of the country.
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There will be no Covid rules for anyone soon.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60319947
It’ll be nice to see an end to all this finger-wagging nonsense.
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