VM Router : Hub 5 at no extra cost

[Jaymoss]

anyone else thing they sent him a 4?? hahaha

[RGK1]

Would anybody who has received the email be able to copy the URL and paste it either in this forum or PM me as i'd be interested to see if anybody who hasn't been invited is able to join/register to get a hub 5.

Many Thanks

[Jaymoss]

I guess there is a chance there was a bundled NDA but I would have thought had it arrived we would know hahaha

[Gobble]

So far the GUI is the same as the hub 3, hub looks physically for a hub. Awaiting to see more in depth tests

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by RGK1

Would anybody who has received the email be able to copy the URL and paste it either in this forum or PM me as i'd be interested to see if anybody who hasn't been invited is able to join/register to get a hub 5.

Many Thanks

That's already been tried over on the Community Forum. It won't work as it checks your account for the invite eligibility.

[rtho782]

Very interesting that it seems it's a Sagemcom device, especially when people were shouting down criticisms of the hub4 only having 1GbE with "They had to stick with Arris!"

Hub3 and Hub4 were available in other LG territories before hitting the UK, let this one seems to have come out of left field and hit the UK before anywhere else. I do wonder if this is perhaps based on an O2 relationship with Sagemcom or something?

[2pence]

Received the Hub 5 yesterday. I just set it up, connected directly to my computer via network cable. It's giving slightly better speeds, and it's now on DOCSIS 3.1.

The router's VM-brand settings software looks exactly like Hub 3's, running so much faster and smoother with no lag.

Here's the readings...

Downstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
1 331000000 4.7 41 QAM 256 25
2 139000000 8.5 41 QAM 256 1
3 147000000 8.4 41 QAM 256 2
4 155000000 8 41 QAM 256 3
5 163000000 7.5 41 QAM 256 4
6 171000000 6.9 41 QAM 256 5
7 179000000 6.5 41 QAM 256 6
8 187000000 6.4 41 QAM 256 7
9 195000000 6.6 41 QAM 256 8
10 203000000 6.5 41 QAM 256 9
11 211000000 6.7 41 QAM 256 10
12 219000000 6.7 41 QAM 256 11
13 227000000 6.6 41 QAM 256 12
14 235000000 6.5 41 QAM 256 13
15 243000000 6.3 41 QAM 256 14
16 251000000 6.1 41 QAM 256 15
17 259000000 5.9 41 QAM 256 16
18 267000000 5.6 41 QAM 256 17
19 275000000 5.6 41 QAM 256 18
20 283000000 5.7 41 QAM 256 19
21 291000000 5.7 41 QAM 256 20
22 299000000 5.6 41 QAM 256 21
23 307000000 5.4 41 QAM 256 22
24 315000000 5.2 41 QAM 256 23
25 323000000 5 40 QAM 256 24
26 339000000 4.7 41 QAM 256 26
27 347000000 4.8 41 QAM 256 27
28 355000000 5.1 41 QAM 256 28
29 363000000 5.3 41 QAM 256 29
30 371000000 5.4 41 QAM 256 30
31 379000000 5.4 41 QAM 256 31

Downstream bonded channels
Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1 Locked 41 0 1
2 Locked 41 0 0
3 Locked 41 0 0
4 Locked 41 0 0
5 Locked 41 0 0
6 Locked 41 0 0
7 Locked 41 0 0
8 Locked 41 0 0
9 Locked 41 0 0
10 Locked 41 0 0
11 Locked 41 0 0
12 Locked 41 0 0
13 Locked 41 0 0
14 Locked 41 0 0
15 Locked 41 0 0
16 Locked 41 0 0
17 Locked 41 0 0
18 Locked 41 0 0
19 Locked 41 0 0
20 Locked 41 0 0
21 Locked 41 0 1
22 Locked 41 0 0
23 Locked 41 0 0
24 Locked 41 0 0
25 Locked 40 0 1
26 Locked 41 0 0
27 Locked 41 0 1
28 Locked 41 0 1
29 Locked 41 0 1
30 Locked 41 0 1
31 Locked 41 0 1

Upstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
1 60300000 44 5120 QAM 64 1
2 53700000 44 5120 QAM 64 2
3 46200000 43.3 5120 QAM 64 3
4 39400000 42.5 5120 QAM 64 4

Upstream bonded channels
Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
1 ATDMA 0 0 0 0
2 ATDMA 0 0 0 0
3 ATDMA 0 0 0 0
4 ATDMA 0 0 0 0

General Configuration
Network access: Allowed
Maximum Number of CPEs: 1
Baseline Privacy: Enabled
DOCSIS Mode: 3.1
Config file: cmreg-vmdg660-bbt062-b.cm

Primary Downstream Service Flow
SFID: 17980
Max Traffic Rate: 402500089 bps
Max Traffic Burst: 42600 bytes
Min Traffic Rate: 0 bps

Primary Upstream Service Flow
SFID: 17979
Max Traffic Rate: 38500089 bps
Max Traffic Burst: 42600 bytes
Min Traffic Rate: 0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst: 42600 bytes
Scheduling Type: Best Effort

Hub 5 device information

The information below shows current status of this Hub 5.

Standard specification compliant : DOCSIS 3.1
Hardware version : 1.1
Software version : LG-RDK_2.22.19-2106.13
Cable MAC address : ***
Cable modem serial number : ***
System up time : 0day(s)0h:50m:31s
Network access : Allowed

WAN IP settings

Your current Hub 5 internet settings are displayed below:

MAC address : ***

IPv4 address : ***
Default gateway : ***
IPv4 lease time : D:6 H:23 M:4 S:40
IPv4 lease expire : Tue Nov 2 11:02:09 2021
IPv4 DNS servers : 194.168.4.100, 194.168.8.100

[Gobble]

So at least for now it looks like the upstream is still using DOCSIS 3.0.

Not that I think much will change, but if you have a BQM on the hub 3, would be good to see how it now looks

[Ken W]

Is the HUB 5 any better for WifI than the Hub 3?

[rtho782]

Originally Posted by Gobble

So at least for now it looks like the upstream is still using DOCSIS 3.0.

Not that I think much will change, but if you have a BQM on the hub 3, would be good to see how it now looks

Yeah VM can't switch to D3.1 up until they get rid of all the D3.0 modems.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by rtho782

Yeah VM can't switch to D3.1 up until they get rid of all the D3.0 modems.

D3.1 upstream before that would be possible for Gig1 and higher though i.e. where customers have guaranteed kit that supports it.

However from previous comments I've seen around online, D3.1 upstream is a significant amount of investment so would need to be commercially viable.

[rtho782]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

D3.1 upstream before that would be possible for Gig1 and higher though i.e. where customers have guaranteed kit that supports it.

However from previous comments I've seen around online, D3.1 upstream is a significant amount of investment so would need to be commercially viable.

Surely in order to do that you'd need to free up some bandwidth by turning off some of the d3.0 upstream channels though? So you'd need a good chunk of the customers off d3.0 based services.

Hopefully where there are people still clinging to SH2AC where they have concerns about the Puma chipset in the SH3/4, they should be up for moving to the SH5.

It would be nice to see a d3.1 business service sometime soon as well.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by rtho782

Surely in order to do that you'd need to free up some bandwidth by turning off some of the d3.0 upstream channels though? So you'd need a good chunk of the customers off d3.0 based services.

Virgin Media didn't have to do that for downstream, so I wasn't aware it would be needed for upstream.

Hopefully where there are people still clinging to SH2AC where they have concerns about the Puma chipset in the SH3/4, they should be up for moving to the SH5.

Anyone with a SH2ac will have a service that doesn't need a Hub 3 or Hub 4, so they'd only be moved over as part of an upgrade or as part of the move of the home phone over the the Hub based service. The network management offer of a Hub 4 isn't forced.

That would apply for the Hub 5 too.

[rtho782]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Virgin Media didn't have to do that for downstream, so I wasn't aware it would be needed for upstream.

Anyone with a SH2ac will have a service that doesn't need a Hub 3 or Hub 4, so they'd only be moved over as part of an upgrade or as part of the move of the home phone over the the Hub based service. The network management offer of a Hub 4 isn't forced.

That would apply for the Hub 5 too.

Yeah I wasn't expecting forced, I just mean the reluctance (from customers) to move away from the SH2AC might shrink.

I was basing the upload stuff on this post on ISPreview:
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...comment-251640

[SnoopZ]

For anyone with a Hub 5 please create and post a BMQ graph.

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broad...toring/quality