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TheDon · 18-07-2011, 03:50

Marking out so hard right now, this is awesome.

wwe · 19-07-2011, 23:19

How can vince get fired he owns wwe?

adzii_nufc · 19-07-2011, 23:31

Just a storyline mate. Vince is on a break and CM punk is still under contract. Its just being played off very well.

Although Triple H will be taking over properly and this is the start of the transition.

They recently said there was far too much talk of Wrestling being scripted and whilst that is the case they wanted it to seem more real and believable thus introducing the CM Punk storyline.

wwe · 19-07-2011, 23:42

Thanks for that. The storylines are being played really well. I really thought cmpunk had gone.

adzii_nufc · 19-07-2011, 23:49

I'm interested in seeing how the rest unfolds. At the moment the storyline revolves around twitter comments by both Cena and Punk (Still in script)

wwe · 20-07-2011, 00:01

yer me 2 car't wait for next weeks raw. I new cena wound't get fired as he 1 of the most popular superstars. The ppv match with cena and punk has to be 1 of the best match in ages. Will the wwe belt go to the winner of miz vs reg next week?

Welshchris · 20-07-2011, 13:17

Theoretically Vince could get fired as chief of the board. His family are only the highest shareholders in WWE if at a future date someone managed to get more shares in the business than his family then theoretically would be possible.

Russ · 20-07-2011, 13:21

It's all a work of course and it's more than likely their way of introducing HHH in to a more corporate role behind the scenes. He and Steph will take over when Vince finally does retire and this is probably WWE's way of slowly getting it over to the fans.

I'll say one thing though, HHH looked massive in that suit.

TheDon · 20-07-2011, 13:26

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Originally Posted by Welshchris

Theoretically Vince could get fired as chief of the board. His family are only the highest shareholders in WWE if at a future date someone managed to get more shares in the business than his family then theoretically would be possible.

He holds 59% of the shares, and has 88% of the voting power.
There's no way he can actually be ousted as he can simply vote against any motion to do so.

That said this was a kayfabe ousting to symbolise what's going on behind the scenes. HHH has been slowly taking over more responsibility in the back for a while now, this was the public passing of the torch so Vince can stay off screen and just run things at the top.

Rumour has it Sin Cara is gone for good as well. His injury at MITB was to cover him getting a wellness violation and picking up a 30 day suspension, but rumour has it he's being let go completely.

Welshchris · 20-07-2011, 13:46

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Originally Posted by TheDon

He holds 59% of the shares, and has 88% of the voting power.
There's no way he can actually be ousted as he can simply vote against any motion to do so.

That said this was a kayfabe ousting to symbolise what's going on behind the scenes. HHH has been slowly taking over more responsibility in the back for a while now, this was the public passing of the torch so Vince can stay off screen and just run things at the top.

Rumour has it Sin Cara is gone for good as well. His injury at MITB was to cover him getting a wellness violation and picking up a 30 day suspension, but rumour has it he's being let go completely.

maybe not at the moment but as i said who knows what the future may hold.

Russ · 20-07-2011, 14:45

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Rumour has it Sin Cara is gone for good as well. His injury at MITB was to cover him getting a wellness violation and picking up a 30 day suspension, but rumour has it he's being let go completely.

He's been given numerous chances but is still failing to impress. He's improved slightly but still botches too many moves. The word is he was traded to Smackdown to keep him off live TV so his errors could be edited out. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't return and because WWE built him up so much I can see TNA snapping him up after his no-compete clause expires.

TheDon · 20-07-2011, 15:19

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He's been given numerous chances but is still failing to impress. He's improved slightly but still botches too many moves. The word is he was traded to Smackdown to keep him off live TV so his errors could be edited out. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't return and because WWE built him up so much I can see TNA snapping him up after his no-compete clause expires.

The thing is a lot of his botches are due to others not him.

His first match the botched entrance was because the trampoline was in the wrong place.
The botch with Primo on the top rope was because Primo slipped, Sin Cara did well I felt to sell it as a counter.

The Over the limit botches against Chavo were mostly due to Chavo. The La Mistica botch for instance was entirely Chavo's fault.

Honestly though, he's wrestling in a completely different style, in a mask that gives him a fraction of the visibility he had in his old one. It's no wonder he's taken a while to settle in.

WWE messed up big style by not throwing him in FCW for a while to learn the WWE style. He's also not helped by the fact that the majority of the WWE roster is green as hell and shouldn't really be on TV either. His match against Christian showed how well he could do against a more experienced guy.

But then I still can't blame them letting him go, because at this point he's a lesser version of Rey Mysterio, if they didn't have Rey I'd keep him for the kids, but they have Rey, so, they don't really need him, especially as his style is one that leads to botches due to people not being trained in a luchador style so really can't handle matches with him.

Russ · 20-07-2011, 15:34

When you learn to be a wrestler at that level one of the most important things they teach is how to adapt to botches, positioning errors, how to carry a gaff-prone or injured opponent etc. Granted some of the errors have not been his fault but he has shown little ability in adapting to each situation.

I agree with FCW though. I know someone who used to be signed there and she said this is the sort of thing they iron out pretty quickly.

TheDon · 20-07-2011, 16:11

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When you learn to be a wrestler at that level one of the most important things they teach is how to adapt to botches, positioning errors, how to carry a gaff-prone or injured opponent etc. Granted some of the errors have not been his fault but he has shown little ability in adapting to each situation.

I agree with FCW though. I know someone who used to be signed there and she said this is the sort of thing they iron out pretty quickly.

There's not much he can do to adapt to most of them though This for instance, Chavo's left arm comes up and blocks off the spin killing the momentum and Sin Cara is absolutely helpless in doing anything to recover from that, seeing as he's up side down and being held onto. This is a move he's done for absolutely years with no issues in Mexico so it's not like he's not used to doing it. Conversely it's a move that no one in the WWE has experience with, yet when it goes bad Sin Cara gets the blame.

It's botches like that that everyone looks at and goes "Sin Cara, he's so bad!" when in reality it's not his fault and there's nothing he can do about it.

She said? Don't get me started on the Diva's division! Lets bring out 14 Divas for a 7 on 7 tag team match, have it be over in 2minutes with no tags! The faster WWE either disbands the Diva's division or starts bringing through women that can ACTUALLY wrestle (Kelly Kelly can't even run the ropes) rather than just look good the better. As of now a Diva's match = time to put the kettle on. Although it'll probably be over before your cuppas even brewed.

Welshchris · 20-07-2011, 16:29

TheDon u dont think the Diva Division is for their wrestling ability do u seeing that a large percentage of the WWE fan base are men.