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Old 16-07-2023, 15:54   #5281
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So a shockingly miniscule 0.08% uplift from this deal whilst Brexit is giving us a 5% reduction in GDP.
I guess every little helps but even if those countries grow by a staggering 100% that's still only a 0.16% uplift!

https://news.sky.com/story/joining-i...1-8bn-12921751

Meanwhile, how's things going with our largest trading partner?



And service companies don't get away from the leaky tyre effect of Brexit either.

https://www.ft.com/content/5f75a690-...0-eb0d544d7bd3
There is the food checks to come also next year iirc, we've put it off six years already, if you think food is expensive now wait until the extra billion quid for those checks is added to your bill, so much for smug and we can have cheaper food, clothing and footwear straightaway

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The CPTPP trade deal has been signed. Immediate benefits estimated at £1.8bn per year once operational, with huge opportunities for us to build on that.

Keri Benedoch confirmed on Laura K’s show this morning that the Indian trade deal was making good progress.
Oh good, maybe the NHS will get the 350 million a week now, it's almost as if you don't know or care what you're talking about
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The CPTPP trade deal has been signed. Immediate benefits estimated at £1.8bn per year once operational, with huge opportunities for us to build on that.

Keri Benedoch confirmed on Laura K’s show this morning that the Indian trade deal was making good progress.

Indian trade deal - at what price in immigration terms?
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Old 16-07-2023, 16:39   #5283
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it's almost as if you don't know or care what you're talking about
Well, you certainly don’t, as all I did was report a news item. I know anything positive about life outside the EU is not what you want to hear, so I suggest you avoid this thread because we will get more news like that. I wouldn’t like to upset your sensitive brain cells.

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Indian trade deal - at what price in immigration terms?
Why ask me? We need to see the details when they are agreed. People don’t like speculation on here.
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Old 16-07-2023, 16:51   #5284
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Well, you certainly don’t, as all I did was report a news item. I know anything positive about life outside the EU is not what you want to hear, so I suggest you avoid this thread because we will get more news like that. I wouldn’t like to upset your sensitive brain cells.

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Why ask me? We need to see the details when they are agreed. People don’t like speculation on here.
You may wish to utilise a fire extinguisher on your underwear…

That statement is not based on actuality - nothing in the link you posted stated
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Why ask me? We need to see the details when they are agreed. People don’t like speculation on here.

You were the one hailing the Indian Trade deal as something worthwhile (without knowing the detail).

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Re: Britain outside the EU

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Well, you certainly don’t, as all I did was report a news item. I know anything positive about life outside the EU is not what you want to hear, so I suggest you avoid this thread because we will get more news like that. I wouldn’t like to upset your sensitive brain cells.

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Why ask me? We need to see the details when they are agreed. People don’t like speculation on here.
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You were the one hailing the Indian Trade deal as something worthwhile (without knowing the detail).

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Old 16-07-2023, 19:32   #5287
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You were the one hailing the Indian Trade deal as something worthwhile (without knowing the detail).

Actually, I said:

‘Kemi Benedoch confirmed on Laura K’s show this morning that the Indian trade deal was making good progress.’

Where did I ‘(hail) it as something worthwhile’?

This misinterpretation of things said that Cable Forumers do when hearing facts that they don’t like seems to have infected you, too, Seph, which saddens me.

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That statement is not based on actuality - nothing in the link you posted stated
The £1.8 bn was actually stated, and I added to that the statement Kemi made about taking up the opportunities that the deal provided. The £1.8bn is a forecast based on existing activity and intentions. It’s been said all along that if you present the opportunities to businesses, they will find imaginative ways to exploit them.

I say that recognising that this is beyond comprehension for some. Live and learn.
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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Where did I ‘(hail) it as something worthwhile’?.
I think Seph means you've hailed it before. For example
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Don’t worry, Andrew. When the new trade agreement with India is signed, we’ll get our overseas labour from there.
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The £1.8 bn was actually stated, and I added to that the statement Kemi made about taking up the opportunities that the deal provided. The £1.8bn is a forecast based on existing activity and intentions.
The issue with your statement about the £1.8bn is that you've used the word "immediate" whereas the article link you've provided says "after 10 years".

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I applaud OB's loyalty to the Conservative cause.

i just wish he would see the government for what it is - a total shambles that is leading us onto the rocks.

What's more, they could stop ULEZ.

They could immediately knock the water company thieves on the head. There shoud be NO sewage discharges and no increase in water charges.

They should listen to John Redwood. (Yes, I know what you lefties will say ...)

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Actually, I said:

‘Kemi Benedoch confirmed on Laura K’s show this morning that the Indian trade deal was making good progress.’

Where did I ‘(hail) it as something worthwhile’?

This misinterpretation of things said that Cable Forumers do when hearing facts that they don’t like seems to have infected you, too, Seph, which saddens me.

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The £1.8 bn was actually stated, and I added to that the statement Kemi made about taking up the opportunities that the deal provided. The £1.8bn is a forecast based on existing activity and intentions. It’s been said all along that if you present the opportunities to businesses, they will find imaginative ways to exploit them.

I say that recognising that this is beyond comprehension for some. Live and learn.
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Indian trade deal - at what price in immigration terms?
Multiculturalism?
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I applaud OB's loyalty to the Conservative cause.

i just wish he would see the government for what it is - a total shambles that is leading us onto the rocks.

What's more, they could stop ULEZ.

They could immediately knock the water company thieves on the head. There shoud be NO sewage discharges and no increase in water charges.

They should listen to John Redwood. (Yes, I know what you lefties will say ...)

You must stop calling us lefties seph as most of us just want a common sense government which actually governs for us all rather then govern for a select group.
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My remark, Den, concerned the lefties only.
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I think Seph means you've hailed it before. For example:

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The £1.8 bn was actually stated, and I added to that the statement Kemi made about taking up the opportunities that the deal provided. The £1.8bn is a forecast based on existing activity and intentions.

The issue with your statement about the £1.8bn is that you've used the word "immediate" whereas the article link you've provided says "after 10 years".
The first quote, obviously, was a joke, based on a post of yours. The second does not use the word ‘immediate’. It says ‘based on existing activity and intentions’.

I say again, these were news items. I simply reported them. Don’t shoot the messenger.

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You must stop calling us lefties seph as most of us just want a common sense government which actually governs for us all rather then govern for a select group.
You did tell us that you voted for Corbyn last time, Den. If that doesn’t make you left wing, what would?
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What’s entertaining is that you throws around “lefties” as an insult. How much catastrophic right wing economic policy do you have to witness to realise it has failed? How high do energy prices have to go? How much human excrement has to flow into our waterways? How many train operators have to “fail” once they’ve trousered all the subsidies and distributed those to shareholders?

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