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Old 21-12-2022, 22:50   #2236
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

I see one of Putin's useful idiots is trying to give him a helping hand.
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Old 21-12-2022, 23:04   #2237
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I see one of Putin's useful idiots is trying to give him a helping hand.

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/s...76927573512192
I wouldn’t worry, these days with Trump and his allies the accent is on the idiot rather than the useful. What with the mid-terms and the spectre of prosecution over the January sedition on Capitol Hill, Trump is damaged goods and tweets like this appeal only to what we now know is a minority on the lunatic fringe of the GOP.

There’s some major butt-hurt on show this evening in Moscow with Zelenskyy getting the hero’s welcome in Washington while Putin attends choreographed audiences with his generals to assure them everything’s going to plan. Unsurprising that Putin’s fanboys in the west are sharing the pain.
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Old 22-12-2022, 07:15   #2238
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Another $2Bn for Ukraine, including Patriot missiles and training for Ukrainians to use them, with a further £45Bn in the pipeline.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64060437

All in all a successful field trip for the Ukrainian C-in-C.
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Old 22-12-2022, 12:50   #2239
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

Zelensky given a warm welcome by congress and delivers a powerful speech.

Full sppech here.(about 25 min)

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live...s/?id=95626111
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

Lest we forget about the true situation in Ukraine before the invasion: https://rumble.com/v20895u-zelensky-...president.html
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Old 22-12-2022, 14:19   #2241
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Lest we forget about the true situation in Ukraine before the invasion: https://rumble.com/v20895u-zelensky-...president.html
Not sure what you mean by "the true situation in Ukraine before the invasion"?

This is a comedy sketch when he was a comedian from the TV series "Servant Of The People" and it must be over six years old (as Obama was President), not when he was a politician.
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Old 22-12-2022, 14:22   #2242
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Not sure what you mean by "the true situation in Ukraine before the invasion"?

This is a comedy sketch when he was a comedian (and it must be over six years old, as Obama was President), not when he was a politician.
Indeed. It's likely that as a mere comedian (at that time) he was saying something pertinent about what was going in Ukraine.
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Old 22-12-2022, 14:30   #2243
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Indeed. It's likely that as a mere comedian (at that time) he was saying something pertinent about what was going in Ukraine.
Much like "Mrs Brown’s Boys" or "The Inbetweeners" were saying something pertinent about what was going on in the U.K.?
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Old 22-12-2022, 15:48   #2244
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Much like "Mrs Brown’s Boys" or "The Inbetweeners" were saying something pertinent about what was going on in the U.K.?
No, not like that. A little more serious. But I suspect that you know this.
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Old 22-12-2022, 16:25   #2245
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No, not like that. A little more serious. But I suspect that you know this.
It's satire, not Panorama.

Something you get in democratic nations but not the kind of thing you would see in the likes of Russia.
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Lest we forget about the true situation in Ukraine before the invasion: https://rumble.com/v20895u-zelensky-...president.html
I’m not sure how this is in any way relevant.

Ukraine is absolutely entitled to sovereign control of its territory under international law. Obviously you haven’t said otherwise, however I also strongly doubt that you’re unaware that attempts to undermine Ukraine’s legal and moral right to an independent existence are central to the Russian information operation against them. One has to wonder why anyone would knowingly circulate Russia’s lines-to-take given the true situation in Ukraine today - even one as innocuous as a comedian riffing off an earlier election result.

Perhaps you could clarify how you think your link is relevant to a discussion of Ukraine’s attempts to resist invasion (and credible evidence of war crimes, including genocide)?

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No, not like that. A little more serious. But I suspect that you know this.
Actually, I wasn’t sure if you were serious…

Nothing says "conspiracy theory" or "misinformation" more than using a clip from a seven year old comedy show and using a vague non-specific statement to intimate that it showed something dodgy…
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No, not like that. A little more serious. But I suspect that you know this.
I thought better of you than this tbh, given your families history as well
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

What about these two dirt bags.

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Zelensky given a warm welcome by congress and delivers a powerful speech.

Full sppech here.(about 25 min)

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live...s/?id=95626111
Just as when Pinocchio was reunited with Geppetto.
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