Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up - Page 22

**Damien** · 15-11-2021, 22:00

I read that had the Government just accepted the suspension of Paterson he would already be almost halfway through that suspension. The amount of grief they brought onto themselves by trying to stop it and only to lose him entirely during the process has been a spectacular own goal.

**Hugh** · 15-11-2021, 23:14

It’s almost as if he wasn’t the sole reason they were trying to change the process…

Dave42 · 15-11-2021, 23:28

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Originally Posted by Paul

TBH OB, your starting to sound like a broken record.

we all know OB will never ever admit a tory wrong doing and never ever take of his tory rose tinted glasses

it has nothing to do with a appeal process it was them trying to change the rules when one of there mates got caught in the act to try save him no matter how much OB tries to defend the undefendable

OLD BOY · 15-11-2021, 23:37

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Originally Posted by Paul

TBH OB, your starting to sound like a broken record.

Maybe it will sink in, then.

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Originally Posted by Dave42

we all know OB will never ever admit a tory wrong doing and never ever take of his tory rose tinted glasses

it has nothing to do with a appeal process it was them trying to change the rules when one of there mates got caught in the act to try save him no matter how much OB tries to defend the undefendable

The motion wasn’t to let him off, Dave, it was….broken record warning…to give him a right of appeal.

1andrew1 · 15-11-2021, 23:38

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I thought you'd given me that honour.

Must be something in the town's water supply.

Dave42 · 15-11-2021, 23:39

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Maybe it will sink in, then.

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The motion wasn’t to let him off, Dave, it was….broken record warning…to give him a right of appeal.

come off it OB you know it was and you would not even mention it if it wasn't a tory mp that got caught

**Hugh** · 16-11-2021, 00:40

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Maybe it will sink in, then.

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The motion wasn’t to let him off, Dave, it was….broken record warning…to give him a right of appeal.

It was….broken record warning… to create a Conservative-controlled Committee which would then have carte-blanche to dismiss any allegations of corruption against other Conservatives…

**Paul** · 16-11-2021, 02:39

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I thought you'd given me that honour.

Its not an exclusive honour.

jfman · 16-11-2021, 08:04

I see Chope has stopped them pushing through accepting the findings at the end of the day. We now get a debate! Number 10 will be delighted with him for that.

**Maggy** · 16-11-2021, 08:22

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Originally Posted by jfman

I see Chope has stopped them pushing through accepting the findings at the end of the day. We now get a debate! Number 10 will be delighted with him for that.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59301710

There's the link.

1andrew1 · 16-11-2021, 10:17

Can someone help?

When BEIS Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng said Kathryn Stone should reconsider her position, what did he mean?

As he's now written to her advising her “I did not mean to express doubt about your ability to discharge your role”

Sephiroth · 16-11-2021, 10:21

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Can someone help?

When BEIS Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng said Kathryn Stone should reconsider her position, what did he mean?

As he's now written to her advising her “I did not mean to express doubt about your ability to discharge your role”

A rhetorical question, no doubt.

Carth · 16-11-2021, 10:31

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Can someone help?

When BEIS Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng said Kathryn Stone should reconsider her position, what did he mean?

As he's now written to her advising her “I did not mean to express doubt about your ability to discharge your role”

Getting his excuse/apology in early to avoid a claim of racism, or something equally as devastating I guess

jfman · 16-11-2021, 13:19

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Can someone help?

When BEIS Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng said Kathryn Stone should reconsider her position, what did he mean?

As he's now written to her advising her “I did not mean to express doubt about your ability to discharge your role”

This was the moment for me that I knew the decision to protect the corrupt MP was coming from the top, and not simply Johnson, Mogg et al with their eye off the ball. A Cabinet Minister essentially calling for her resignation on live television is part of a communications strategy. The question could reasonably be anticipated and he delivered the agreed line.

In anything other than a banana republic he would be resigning for undermining an independent process.

ianch99 · 16-11-2021, 15:08

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Originally Posted by jfman

This was the moment for me that I knew the decision to protect the corrupt MP was coming from the top, and not simply Johnson, Mogg et al with their eye off the ball. A Cabinet Minister essentially calling for her resignation on live television is part of a communications strategy. The question could reasonably be anticipated and he delivered the agreed line.

In anything other than a banana republic he would be resigning for undermining an independent process.

You summarise the current situation well. The path that current Tory Party has taken from the pre-Thatcher one-nation Conservatism days is shocking. On the current trajectory, the executive control, cronyism & corruption will only get worse, the erosion of standards across the board will continue and the duplicity of the PM and his Cabinet will increase.

The imminent reveal of the weapons grade cronyism of the Covid PPE VIP Lane scandal will further illuminate the sordid practices of this Government and we haven't even touched on this corruption yet:

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