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Old 26-08-2021, 18:20   #1336
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That's fair enough but you said "71% of the venture will be owned by WB's parent company". The parent company is AT&T. WarnerMedia will be spun off so, other than sharing some of the same shareholders, AT&T will have no control over the new company.
Fair enough, spot on yet again. Sorry. I cut'n'pasted details in a post almost a week ago (see bottom) and didn't even get it correct then .

I suppose I should've said the Discovery guy's new job at the top of the new company doesn't necessarily mean Discovery employees are in charge, the WB staff might have most of the other top jobs.

The bit I posted almost a week ago & misremembered
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"Under the terms of the agreement, which is structured as an all-stock, Reverse Morris Trust transaction, AT&T would receive $43 billion (subject to adjustment) in a combination of cash, debt securities, and WarnerMedia’s retention of certain debt, and AT&T’s shareholders would receive stock representing 71% of the new company; Discovery shareholders would own 29% of the new company. The Boards of Directors of both AT&T and Discovery have approved the transaction."

Source : Discovery's Corporate News site https://ir.corporate.discovery.com/n...t/default.aspx
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Old 26-08-2021, 20:48   #1337
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Partly right, the FOX label has been moved from 524 to 574. FOX HD was, and the label still is sid 1610. Before you ask FOX+1 was 723 but the label moved to 751 to make way for QVC Extra. The movement to higher sid numbers is normal until the channels are completely removed about 3 months after closure. I had been given the information this morning but didn't think it was worth posting.

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That's fair enough but you said "71% of the venture will be owned by WB's parent company". The parent company is AT&T. WarnerMedia will be spun off so, other than sharing some of the same shareholders, AT&T will have no control over the new company.

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Thank you. It's a hobbyist site, so I'll still wait for the encryption flag to be added. If it is added, it is confirmation of a "subs club" agreement with Sky. Encryption being a Sky service. A shame then that Virgin didn't manage to negotiate a similar agreement.
Alternatively, it might not be going into the Sub Club, but be getting a sweetener for going FTV to get it off Freesat and generic satellite STB's as seems to have happened with Motors TV in the past?? I think this is unlikely though.
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Old 26-08-2021, 21:16   #1338
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Alternatively, it might not be going into the Sub Club, but be getting a sweetener for going FTV to get it off Freesat and generic satellite STB's as seems to have happened with Motors TV in the past?? I think this is unlikely though.
I doubt that CNN has the kind of audience levels that would encourage Sky to offer such a sweetener. Also, it doesn't really fit with the theory of CNN moving to a subscription only model. What really amuses me is Virgin's explanation that they will no longer be carrying CNN as it is moving to a subscription model. Isn't that the case for most of the channels carried on Virgin TV?
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Old 26-08-2021, 22:25   #1339
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I doubt that CNN has the kind of audience levels that would encourage Sky to offer such a sweetener. Also, it doesn't really fit with the theory of CNN moving to a subscription only model. What really amuses me is Virgin's explanation that they will no longer be carrying CNN as it is moving to a subscription model. Isn't that the case for most of the channels carried on Virgin TV?
Aye, they're just spouting their usual crap.
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Old 26-08-2021, 22:49   #1340
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Yup Old boy, Like when is Sky Atlantic Coming, it is Aint My Prediction it will be gone in 2024....
My Prediction is it will be rebranded well before then.
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Old 27-08-2021, 00:39   #1341
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They hven't said how much longer they will be on Sky - only still there from 1st September.

The question those wanting to know should not be "will CNN still be on Sky after 1st Sept 2021?" but should be "will CNN still be on Sky after 1st Jan 2022?".
Been told CNN carriage deal with Sky will expire sometime before November 2024.

Last deal Sky done with WarnerMedia was an FIVE yrs deal - Confirmed on October 31st 2019.

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Partly right, the FOX label has been moved from 524 to 574. FOX HD was, and the label still is sid 1610. Before you ask FOX+1 was 723 but the label moved to 751 to make way for QVC Extra. The movement to higher sid numbers is normal until the channels are completely removed about 3 months after closure. I had been given the information this morning but didn't think it was worth posting.
I know about that QVC Extra bit.

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Also you will only have until the end of September to watch any FOX shows on your boxes until the channels are completely removed.

TiVo says that CNN will close on Virgin Media Channel 607 at midnight on Tuesday (early Wednesday).

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Now we know that Virgin Media UK has signed an new deal to keep broadcasting the rest of the WarnerMedia channels minus CNN International.

Is Boomerang HD set to launch on Virgin Media as part of this deal?
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Old 27-08-2021, 14:44   #1342
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Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2021)

VM finally has a page about the changes to the Sky channels on 1st September:

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...n-virgin-media
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Old 27-08-2021, 16:14   #1343
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VM finally has a page about the changes to the Sky channels on 1st September:

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...n-virgin-media
Thanks for the link SonicMaster.

Pretty much the expect marketing blurb, the only bit that I found useful to know was this...

"What will happen to Sky One series links and recordings?

For subscribed customers, existing Sky One recordings are unaffected. A series link on TiVoŽ/V6 set to “All channels” will find and record the shows in their new homes. However, a series link set for a show on Sky One will stop recording. For shows from Sky One staying on Sky Showcase, it will continue recording."

I'd been expecting Series Links for Sky 1 shows that were moving to Showcase to just move over since it was getting the same channel number, I was only expecting to change Series Links for shows that were moving to Comedy or Max.
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Old 27-08-2021, 16:31   #1344
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Do we know that a new deal has been signed for the rest of the Warner media channels?
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Old 27-08-2021, 20:43   #1345
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VM finally has a page about the changes to the Sky channels on 1st September:

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...n-virgin-media
Well, MB was right about Sky Replay.
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Well, MB was right about Sky Replay.
Sky has been given Channel 163 (BBC Four HD old home) and are reusing Channel 206 (Universal Channel +1 old home) from September 1st. But I would have pick Virgin Channels 157 and 158.

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Do we know that a new deal has been signed for the rest of the Warner media channels?
Nothing has been confirmed.
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Sky has been given Channel 163 (BBC Four HD old home) and are reusing Channel 206 (Universal Channel +1 old home) from September 1st. But I would have pick Virgin Channels 157 and 158.

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Nothing has been confirmed.
My remembrance was BBC2 HD 162, BBC3 HD 163, BBC4 HD 164.
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My remembrance was BBC2 HD 162, BBC3 HD 163, BBC4 HD 164.
BBC Four HD was on Channel 163 until 2018.

https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...on-virgin.html, https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...-from-4th.html
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It was on 164 at one point though, your own blog says so.
https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...view-2013.html
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It was on 164 at one point though, your own blog says so.
https://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/20...view-2013.html
Perhaps BBC4 HD simply moved to 163 after BBC3 HD was removed.

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I know about that QVC Extra bit.
Of course, but did you know FOX+1 moved to 751? which was the point I was making.
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