Freeview changes - Page 39

Media Boy UK · 22-02-2023, 15:10

Today's Freeview Changes:

ITVBe (D3&4) has moved from Channel 791 to Channel 17.*
ITVBe (SDN) has moved from Channel 17 to Channel 792.*
Amazing Discoveries (SDN) has been added to Channel 284 [Streaming Channel].

*You need to retune to get the right ITVBe (D3&4) on Channel 17 as the SDN one will stop broadcasting soon.

cheekyangus · 23-02-2023, 14:40

Where are you getting Ch17 from? That's REALLY channel. ITV Be is Ch28.

Media Boy UK · 23-02-2023, 20:07

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus

Where are you getting Ch17 from? That's REALLY channel. ITV Be is Ch28.

Oops I forgot it was on Channel 28 - was thinking about my own EPG numbers.

Media Boy UK · 24-02-2023, 16:19

I feel the old ITVBe (SDN) will stop broadcasting on Freeview Channel 792 on March 1st here why:

*Feb. 15th ITVBe launch on D3&4 on Channel 791
*Feb. 22nd ITVBe (D3&4) did move from Channel 791 to Channel 28
*Feb. 22nd ITVBe (SDN) did move from Channel 28 to Channel 792

Media Boy UK · 01-03-2023, 12:55

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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK

I feel the old ITVBe (SDN) will stop broadcasting on Freeview Channel 792 on March 1st here why:

*Feb. 15th ITVBe launch on D3&4 on Channel 791
*Feb. 22nd ITVBe (D3&4) did move from Channel 791 to Channel 28
*Feb. 22nd ITVBe (SDN) did move from Channel 28 to Channel 792

As of 12.15pm today - ITVBe is no longer broadcasting on the COM4/SDN Stream on Freeview.

Media Boy UK · 10-03-2023, 13:38

ITV has today reveal that CITV channel will close in early Autumn.

*ITV2 to start broadcasting Kids programmes again since 2004 in the mornings. (GMTV2 did broadcast on ITV2 before moving to ITV4 with it launch in 2004.)
*Will ITV use the old CITV timeshare slot with ITV3 +1 to launch ITV3 +1 on Freeview full time?

https://advanced-television.com/2023...nch-july-2023/

cheekyangus · 10-03-2023, 16:29

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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK

ITV has today reveal that CITV channel will close in early Autumn.

*ITV2 to start broadcasting Kids programmes again since 2004 in the mornings. (GMTV2 did broadcast on ITV2 before moving to ITV4 with it launch in 2004.)
*Will ITV use the old CITV timeshare slot with ITV3 +1 to launch ITV3 +1 on Freeview full time?

https://advanced-television.com/2023...nch-july-2023/

It might increase the chances of COM4 switching to DVB-T2 with no core ITV services left on it.

Media Boy UK · 10-03-2023, 17:03

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus

It might increase the chances of COM4 switching to DVB-T2 with no core ITV services left on it.

Also it will make SDN with three and a half unuse slots.

Now we know why CITV was not rebranded last year or did not move to D3&4 to timeshare with ITV2 +1 for.

RichardCoulter · 11-03-2023, 07:55

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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK

Also it will make SDN with three and a half unuse slots.

Now we know why CITV was not rebranded last year or did not move to D3&4 to timeshare with ITV2 +1 for.

...and also why an HD version was never created.

---------- Post added at 07:55 ---------- Previous post was at 07:53 ----------

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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK

ITV has today reveal that CITV channel will close in early Autumn.

*ITV2 to start broadcasting Kids programmes again since 2004 in the mornings. (GMTV2 did broadcast on ITV2 before moving to ITV4 with it launch in 2004.)
*Will ITV use the old CITV timeshare slot with ITV3 +1 to launch ITV3 +1 on Freeview full time?

https://advanced-television.com/2023...nch-july-2023/

Pretty sure that ITV will use the vacated space to make ITV3 +1 24/7 on Freeview.

Media Boy UK · 11-03-2023, 16:45

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

...and also why an HD version was never created.

Sky Glass do have a CITV HD listed.

ozsat · 11-03-2023, 16:51

It is HD on BTtv too - so maybe like that on all streaming services ??

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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK

Sky Glass do have a CITV HD listed.

cheekyangus · 11-03-2023, 20:13

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

...and also why an HD version was never created.

---------- Post added at 07:55 ---------- Previous post was at 07:53 ----------

Pretty sure that ITV will use the vacated space to make ITV3 +1 24/7 on Freeview.

With really short versions of ITV4+1 and ITVBe+1 on that stream currently, I wouldn't be surprised if they made those longer.

cheekyangus · 17-03-2023, 18:16

A516digital is reporting PSB3 aka BBCB multiplex is fully regionalised in Northern and Central England now.

https://twitter.com/a516digital/stat...8785540

And showing an on-screen message with a 22nd March retune date.

https://twitter.com/a516digital/stat...62213385146375

epsilon · 18-03-2023, 13:00

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus

A516digital is reporting PSB3 aka BBCB multiplex is fully regionalised in Northern and Central England now.

https://twitter.com/a516digital/stat...8785540

And showing an on-screen message with a 22nd March retune date.

https://twitter.com/a516digital/stat...62213385146375

As I understand it, the C&M infrastructure has been ready for some months. In fact, the old C&M setup has been repurposed to bring the BBC HD regions to satellite.

Many of the regions now have an alternative SID number for the new regionalised BBC ONE HD, which is a good indication of how far work has progressed. Some regions still having the SID number for the main region in the existing, ITV based, macro region, indicating that more work is needed.

Although the old TSIDs are still being used, some with the same ID are carrying different data, so the multiplexes have been split. Maybe Wednesday's changes will also involve renumbering the TSIDs. When the new TSIDs are known, it will be a good indication of how well the new infrastructure will allow for the correct ITV 1 HD regions to be added at a later stage.

The London region will now out of sync with the BBC house style for SID numbering. The SID currently used for the England-wide BBC ONE HD service has been 17540 which, following BBC house style, should be the SID number for a London regional service. It appears that the new regional service for London has now been issued with SID 17536 - under the BBC house style, that would be the SID number for a UK wide service. SID 17599 would have been the correct number for an England-wide service. It will be interesting to see if this anomaly is corrected but it is, by no means, critical.

Wednesday's changes should be quite revealing.

cheekyangus · 18-03-2023, 14:12

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Originally Posted by epsilon

As I understand it, the C&M infrastructure has been ready for some months. In fact, the old C&M setup has been repurposed to bring the BBC HD regions to satellite.

Many of the regions now have an alternative SID number for the new regionalised BBC ONE HD, which is a good indication of how far work has progressed. Some regions still having the SID number for the main region in the existing, ITV based, macro region, indicating that more work is needed.

Although the old TSIDs are still being used, some with the same ID are carrying different data, so the multiplexes have been split. Maybe Wednesday's changes will also involve renumbering the TSIDs. When the new TSIDs are known, it will be a good indication of how well the new infrastructure will allow for the correct ITV 1 HD regions to be added at a later stage.

The London region will now out of sync with the BBC house style for SID numbering. The SID currently used for the England-wide BBC ONE HD service has been 17540 which, following BBC house style, should be the SID number for a London regional service. It appears that the new regional service for London has now been issued with SID 17536 - under the BBC house style, that would be the SID number for a UK wide service. SID 17599 would have been the correct number for an England-wide service. It will be interesting to see if this anomaly is corrected but it is, by no means, critical.

Wednesday's changes should be quite revealing.

Thanks epsilon.