UK Timeline Doctor Who - Page 47

Stephen · 18-05-2022, 09:20

There is no jumped shark. She is an actress playing a role. If you can't handle a trans person being in the show then I'm glad you'll give it a miss.

Also that article is incorrect in stating she will play Rose Tyler. Yes her first name will be Rose but NOT the actual same Rose Tyler we know. Rose will apparently be Donna's daughter.

Jaymoss · 18-05-2022, 09:35

That link says she is playing the same Rose played by Billie Piper though. How does that work?

Are you sure Stephan ? cuz it seems like the box ticking thing the BBC loves

Thankfully is looks like you are right. imdb has her listed as Rose Temple Noble

BenMcr · 18-05-2022, 09:46

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That link says she is playing the same Rose played by Billie Piper though. How does that work?

Are you sure Stephan ? cuz it seems like the box ticking thing the BBC loves

The BBC press release doesn't say whether or not it's the same Rose or a different one. All it says is this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/20...-yasmin-finney

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Russell T Davies, Showrunner adds: “Life on Doctor Who gets brighter and wilder, how can there be another Rose? You’ll find out in 2023, but it’s an absolute joy to welcome Yasmin to the Doctor Who set. We all fell in love with her in Heartstopper, one of those shows which changes the world - and now Yasmin can change the Whoniverse!”

Jaymoss · 18-05-2022, 09:50

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The BBC press release doesn't say whether or not it's the same Rose or a different one. All it says is this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/20...-yasmin-finney

I just hope imdb is right and they do not try to have her as the same one

Stephen · 18-05-2022, 12:12

That link is wrong. They have just assumed she is playing Rose Tyler.

Jaymoss · 18-05-2022, 12:16

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That link is wrong. They have just assumed she is playing Rose Tyler.

yeah the Noble bit makes sense now I have thought about it

**Paul** · 18-05-2022, 15:36

Oh look, the BBC ticking another box.

BenMcr · 18-05-2022, 15:40

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Oh look, the BBC ticking another box.

And which box would that be?

**Paul** · 18-05-2022, 15:45

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And which box would that be?

I assume you are not really that stupid, just playing dumb.

Its right there in the title "Doctor Who casts its first trans actress".

Stephen · 18-05-2022, 15:46

Are they ticking boxes or is it just people thinking that, as black qnd trans actors have been chosen for roles?

What if they simply auditioned and were chosen for the part as they were the best and the showrunner really liked what they bring to the table.

BenMcr · 18-05-2022, 15:49

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I assume you are not really that stupid, just playing dumb.

Its right there in the title "Doctor Who casts its first trans actress".

I don't see that mentioned on the BBC press release, just that she's been cast in the show.

But even with the other media references to her being trans, what 'box' does that tick in regards to her acting ability or fit within the show?

**Paul** · 18-05-2022, 15:57

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Are they ticking boxes or is it just people thinking that, as black qnd trans actors have been chosen for roles?

Only the BBC can ultimately answer that.

As I read somewhere ;

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Even if the new Dr Who has been offered the role because he’s the best person… the reality is that years of diversity-first policies have convinced many that the best person for the job is no longer actual BBC policy.

After 60 years its suddenly a female doctor, then a black (possibly gay) doctor, then a trans companion, not to mention a glut of in your face woke episodes - so yes, its looks remarkibly like another box ticking exercise.

BenMcr · 18-05-2022, 16:14

Our society includes women, people of colour and people who are trans so it should be unsurprising that some actors from those groups end up in popular TV shows.

The fact that it's not and is seen to be 'box ticking' isn't a positive.

Stephen · 18-05-2022, 16:22

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Only the BBC can ultimately answer that.

As I read somewhere ;

After 60 years its suddenly a female doctor, then a black (possibly gay) doctor, then a trans companion, not to mention a glut of in your face woke episodes - so yes, its looks remarkibly like another box ticking exercise.

Or is it just that white people have decided that if anyone of different race, gender or sexual orientation get acting jobs instead of white males that it's 'box ticking'.

Messages have always been part of TV programs. Going right back to 60s Star Trek. However people were not as 'woke' back then so the messages didn't seem as in your face, but watching them now it's fairly obvious, same even for kids programs like He-Man and Captain Planet.

**Paul** · 18-05-2022, 22:08

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Our society includes women, people of colour and people who are trans so it should be unsurprising that some actors from those groups end up in popular TV shows.

You can spin it as much as you want, its a clear BBC box ticking exercise.

How will it pan out with viewers, well that remains to be seen.
It quickly tanked under Chibnall - ultimately logging its lowest ever viewer figures.
Since RTD is back in charge, I'm hoping it will improve, it cant really get much worse.

(We wont see the 14th season until November 2023, so a long way off yet).