Unstoppable migration?

[heero_yuy]

GERMAN politicians are campaigning to make pork a compulsory school dinner amid reports of sausages being banned to stop Muslims being offended.

Over the weekend members of Angela Merkel’s CDU party claimed that more and more public canteens, day care centres and schools have stopped serving sausages, bacon and ham.

Now in a bid to save the country’s famously pork-heavy cuisine, politicians are campaigning for sausages, bacon and chops to be a compulsory option for anyone eating in a public building.

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Far right backlash or wurst case scenario?

[tweedle]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Why is he still here, why on earth are we accepting his cultural differences rather than just putting him on the next boat home

Have you not realised yet, we have to learn to understand and accept all of their cultural differences. They don't have to understand or accept any of ours. It's a one way street.

An YES PEOPLE EATING PORK AND NONE HALAL MEAT IS A CULTURAL DIFFERENCE. Maybe some should learn to understand and accept it.

[Osem]

Slovenia has introduced new border restrictions for migrants as part of efforts to close the Balkans route from Greece to Western Europe.

Only migrants who plan to seek asylum in the country, or those with clear humanitarian needs will be allowed entry.

In reaction, Serbia said it would close its borders with Macedonia and Bulgaria to those without valid documents.

The future of the EU's passport-free Schengen zone is already in doubt.

Eight of its members, including Austria, Hungary and Slovakia, have tightened border controls, leaving thousands of migrants stranded in Greece.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35760534

More razorwire in open Europe...

[Ramrod]

They admit in private what they cover up in public!
Leaked Police Document: More Migrants Means More Crime

German police anticipate continuing growth in the rate of offences against the person, criminal damage, theft, and drug offences in line with rising migration according to a leaked internal paper.

[Osem]

No, no, no! It's all lies propagated by swivel eyed loonies.

Thankfully it's all unravelling at last but so much damage is already done. Does anyone outside Eurolalaland really think that failed migrants are going to queue up to be sent anywhere? How long before someone or other throws themselves off a boat in protest? How long before someone dies resisting their removal and the pressure's on to abandon such a callous policy? How long before the anti-removal riots start? Wonder if Donald Tusk has any answers...

[Ramrod]

Yvette Cooper doesn't

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[techguyone]

LOL that was funny, these people should know when to stfu instead of trying to be popular and edgy.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

The schools and cafes exist Russ we can be sure of that,

So no evidence then?

A bit like the asylum seeker who was allowed to stay because he had a cat?

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Yvette Cooper doesn't

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........and more news from celebrityland: link

I heard her doing the same thing a few weeks back on the Daily Politics IIRC. They do like to talk the talk don't they. Makes you wonder what sort of idiots vote for people like that.

[Taf]

How did you find that out?

My Turkish friend was in one shop when it was raided, and the first thing those being questioned gave as a reply to the translator was "I want to claim asylum". His work colleague saw the same thing further down the road in a halal butcher shop.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Taf

My Turkish friend was in one shop when it was raided, and the first thing those being questioned gave as a reply to the translator was "I want to claim asylum". His work colleague saw the same thing further down the road in a halal butcher shop.

Yep, I've seen similar in countless fly-on-the wall documentaries concerning the workings of the borders agency. These people know only too well that there are various ways by which to avoid or at least delay being detained, let alone removed. They freely exploit the weaknesses inherent in the system which allows people to be detained, then released and told to report weekly only to abscond again. If they claim to be under 16 they know they can't be detained and must be released into social services care until age testing can be arranged during which time they're free to abscond. Those caught and successfully removed do, IMHO, represent the very small tip of a very large iceberg. The authorities have no idea of the scale of illegal migration into the UK and nor do they want to know.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Taf

My Turkish friend was in one shop when it was raided, and the first thing those being questioned gave as a reply to the translator was "I want to claim asylum". His work colleague saw the same thing further down the road in a halal butcher shop.

The problem is none of this is verifiable. Illegals immediately claiming asylum upon capture, schools and cafes banning pork etc. Obviously all these stories are possible and may well be true however there's a huge lack of verifiable evidenced but plenty of rumour/supposition and all too often that's enough to get people believing. The irony is these viewpoints would be greatly strengthened if proof could be provided.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not necessarily pro-immigrant or anti-borders. In fact I agree there's a huge problem with immigration being hidden behind political correctness and 'hand-wringing'. I just see too many 'right wingers' expressing negative, aggressive and yes sometimes racist views whilst at the same time witnessing far too many 'left wingers' simply ignoring and being blind to legitimate opposition views and automatically taking the side of who/what they consider to be oppressed/disadvantaged. For either of these 'types', evidence is rarely needed other than "I've heard they did such-and-such the other day".

Plus if you're not 100% in one camp they automatically consider you 100% in to the other.

Complete madness.

[Taf]

Originally Posted by Russ

The problem is none of this is verifiable. Illegals immediately claiming asylum upon capture.....

I have seen several TV programmes where this happened on camera, both in places of employment and in the homes that were being raided. So being told it has happened yet again, by people who were witnesses I trust, does not surprise me at all.

Ditto reports in the media, though some outlets do have an axe to grind I don't deny.

The trouble is with those who deny it ever happened or is still happening. Burying your head in the sand does not make it go away, neither does hiding behind dogma and political leanings.

[nomadking]

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Islington council reportedly said not having pork on school menus helped keep costs down and reduce food waste. It said it is too expensive to serve because it would require monitoring what every child eats in case they are forbidden from eating pork by their cultural or religious beliefs.
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"It is not currently provided in our catering contract, but if any primary school wants to serve pork we will work with them to arrange it."
It added that pork is not available on catering contracts used by some other boroughs in London.

Why should there need to be special arrangements to serve pork? Cultural and religious beliefs go beyond just not eating pork, so if they were telling the truth, then monitoring would still be required. Eg Is the Lamb(Lamb & Chickpea Tagine with Couscous, Organic Wholemeal Lamb Lasagne), Beef(Beef & Vegetable Hotpot,Organic Wholemeal Spaghetti Beef
Bolognaise) , Chicken(Chicken Chow Mein with Noodles/Rice, Organic Chicken Dhansak with Rice) Halal, Kosher, or otherwise?

The special legal exemption for Halal and Kosher produce is based around CONSUMPTION, not PRODUCTION. It should only be allowed to be produced for those who require or want Halal/Kosher food. Otherwise it makes a mockery of the law.

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Pabulum, a school caterer in south-east England, said that around 20 of the 48 primary schools it supplied chose only non-pork lunches.
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In Luton, 23 out of 57 schools which contract their dinners from the local authority have a “no pork” policy. In Bradford the figure is 24 out of 160; in Newham, east London, it is 25 out of 75; in Tower Hamlets, east London, it is 85 out of 90. In Haringey’s infant, junior and primary schools, 37 out of 47 serve no pork.

Many schools across the country already supply halal meat either as an option or exclusively.

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If caught by police illegally in the UK, they are at first arrested on immigration offences. Immigration officers will submit an application on behalf of those seeking asylum.
Asylum seekers will be asked to explain how they were persecuted in their home country and why they are afraid to go back, and to provide any evidence supporting their claims.

Lord Andrew Green of Deddington, who asked for the figures through a written question, said: “It is very important to look at the outcome of the asylum system in the round. Not many people realise that, on average over the past 10 years, nearly half of all those who have claimed asylum have only done so when their presence in Britain was discovered.

OFFICIAL LINK.

Over the last 10 years there have been 83,912 asylum claims made by individuals encountered by local Immigration and Enforcement Staff and the outcome of these cases is detailed below.

Not verifiable?

[Russ]

Originally Posted by nomadking

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Why should there need to be special arrangements to serve pork? Cultural and religious beliefs go beyond just not eating pork, so if they were telling the truth, then monitoring would still be required. Eg Is the Lamb(Lamb & Chickpea Tagine with Couscous, Organic Wholemeal Lamb Lasagne), Beef(Beef & Vegetable Hotpot,Organic Wholemeal Spaghetti Beef
Bolognaise) , Chicken(Chicken Chow Mein with Noodles/Rice, Organic Chicken Dhansak with Rice) Halal, Kosher, or otherwise?

The special legal exemption for Halal and Kosher produce is based around CONSUMPTION, not PRODUCTION. It should only be allowed to be produced for those who require or want Halal/Kosher food. Otherwise it makes a mockery of the law.

So for Luton, an area with an established high Muslim population does it not make sense to tailor menus to the dietary requirements?

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OFFICIAL LINK.
Not verifiable?

Indeed not verifiable. I didn't say I thought it doesn't happen but why did the German in question not provide verified evidence?