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31-01-2022, 18:33
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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It is not criminal. If a person was caught breaching the Covid rules, they were issued with a Fixed Penalty Notice, that once paid, the recipient waived any criminal liability and no criminal record.
The problem now for the Police, is that there is a statute of limitations of 6 months on such breaches. So if they see any breaches now that happened over 6 months ago, the police have no legal authority to sanction as per the Coronavirus Act.
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Not for COVID breaches, I believe.
https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.u...%20regulations.
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IS THERE A TIME LIMIT WITHIN WHICH THE POLICE MUST ISSUE THE FIXED PENALTY NOTICE?
There is no time limit for issuing a fixed penalty notice for breach of the coronavirus regulations. However, there is a time limit for bringing criminal charges if you refuse to pay the fine.
If you do not pay the fine, you may be charged with a criminal offence of breaching the coronavirus regulations. The coronavirus regulations were made under the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 which says that if the police or the CPS are going to charge you with an offence, they must do it within:
Three years from the date the offence was committed, and
Six months from the date the prosecutor believes they have enough evidence to charge you.
Put simply, if you failed to pay a fixed penalty notice within 28 days, the police or CPS would then have 6 months in which to charge you with a breach of the coronavirus regulations.
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01-02-2022, 15:08
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
The Metropolitan Police has said that it will not name any individuals but will just reveal the total number of fines issued.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...val-court.html
Number 10 said it would be a matter for Scotland Yard to decide whether to name any individuals who are hit with fixed penalty notices in the Partygate investigation – but police guidelines state they would not routinely be identified.
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01-02-2022, 15:58
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
What- as in Boris/Carrie not being named? Cover-up or what? Be interesting to watch the relevant PMQ after a leak has occurred.
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01-02-2022, 16:15
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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What- as in Boris/Carrie not being named? Cover-up or what? Be interesting to watch the relevant PMQ after a leak has occurred.
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It's the way trivial matters of minor law breaking are dealt with.
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01-02-2022, 16:28
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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It's the way trivial matters of minor law breaking are dealt with.
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Strange - you previously posted that this sort of offence was a resigning/stepping down matter…
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01-02-2022, 16:34
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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The Metropolitan Police has said that it will not name any individuals but will just reveal the total number of fines issued.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...val-court.html
Number 10 said it would be a matter for Scotland Yard to decide whether to name any individuals who are hit with fixed penalty notices in the Partygate investigation – but police guidelines state they would not routinely be identified. |
I'm sure that will be fine by Johnson. 
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01-02-2022, 16:36
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Strange - you previously posted that this sort of offence was a resigning/stepping down matter…
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It’s both really. Anything that can be dealt with via a FPN is trivial in the grand scheme of criminality. Yet at the same time what it represents when it’s done by the leaders who set the rules at a time of national crisis, is politically far more significant. Nonetheless it’s not up to the polis to release information based on perceived political significance. The usual anonymous sources will take care of that.
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01-02-2022, 16:46
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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It’s both really. Anything that can be dealt with via a FPN is trivial in the grand scheme of criminality. Yet at the same time what it represents when it’s done by the leaders who set the rules at a time of national crisis, is politically far more significant. Nonetheless it’s not up to the polis to release information based on perceived political significance. The usual anonymous sources will take care of that.
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01-02-2022, 17:10
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
Another day, another u-turn.
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The public would "hypothetically" be told if the prime minister was fined for breaking COVID rules, Downing Street has said - after earlier refusing to guarantee that would happen.
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https://news.sky.com/story/downing-s...ation-12530285
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01-02-2022, 22:48
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
The one in the flat is another he has specifically denied right?
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01-02-2022, 22:58
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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The one in the flat is another he has specifically denied right?
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I think the denial in question may have been vague enough to get him off the hook for lying.
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02-02-2022, 09:42
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Tory MP Tobias Ellwood reveals he will be submitting letter of no confidence in PM today
The senior Tory, who is chair of the Defence Select Committee, revealed in an interview with Kay Burley that he would be making the move.
He said it is "time to resolve this" as the Conservative Party is "slipping into a very ugly place".
It comes as the prime minister faces continued pressure over the partygate revelations, with the Metropolitan Police investigating 12 gatherings during COVID-19 restrictions for potential breaches of regulations.
Mr Ellwood's comments come after another Conservative MP, Peter Aldous, said on Tuesday that he would be submitting a letter to Sir Graham Brady, chairman of the 1922 Committee.
Explaining why he is also putting a letter in to Sir Graham, Mr Ellwood said it is "just horrible" for Tory MPs to "continuously have to defend this to the British public".
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=entnewsntp
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02-02-2022, 10:10
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
Taken from the Wiki page of a certain Tory MP Tobias Ellwood.
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In December 2020, during the COVID-19 pandemic, Ellwood urged the government not to relax the rules governing social mixing over the Christmas period, then attended a Christmas party at the Cavalry and Guards Club in London with 26 other people.[28] He was criticised for his decision to attend by Home Secretary Priti Patel, who said, "Having dinner... outside of the rules with a large number of people is a breach of the regulations.
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Obviously part of the problems he's trying to eradicate . . . should resign immediately
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02-02-2022, 10:36
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Taken from the Wiki page of a certain Tory MP Tobias Ellwood.
Obviously part of the problems he's trying to eradicate . . . should resign immediately |
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