50M : Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)

[boroboi]

Originally Posted by pabscars

what say you.

I say to hell with that. At that point i'd seriously consider dropping tiers and getting an ADSL connection in.

[suckaaa]

heres my graph 100 meg vmng and dlink vs the superhub huddersfield area, i bought the vmng of ebay but really cant notice any difference while gaming gears 2 and 3

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...09-03-2012.png

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...06-03-2012.png

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by suckaaa

heres my graph 100 meg vmng and dlink vs the superhub huddersfield area, i bought the vmng of ebay but really cant notice any difference while gaming gears 2 and 3

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...09-03-2012.png

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...06-03-2012.png

how did you get the stolen modem activated?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by craigj2k12

its over fibre optic cables so technically it is the speed of light

c. 16 ms is the speed of light, plus what Qasi has said.

[suckaaa]

Lol was it stolen i dont no i rang 150 indian call centre i said virgin sent it me he checked tht it was registered to a different account put me on hold dunno where he went came back and activated it, havent checked speeds on it though upload seems a little lower

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by suckaaa

heres my graph 100 meg vmng and dlink vs the superhub huddersfield area, i bought the vmng of ebay but really cant notice any difference while gaming gears 2 and 3

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...09-03-2012.png

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...06-03-2012.png

your area is a good VM area.

so far everyone I know who says they see no difference is in low utilised areas.

although I dont know if the jitter differences between the 2 devices would be enough to show in a game. for me its about 5-10ms on pingtest.net difference depending on time of day and the delayed packets seem almost alternate on the superhub which shows noticebly in ssh but I dont game so I have never observed the effect in gaming.

I have also noticed lately that the differences arent so clear on tbb graphs, I found even when the graph looks ok there was noticebly jitter in ssh on my superhub 24/7. Whilst the vmng300 feels slightly jittery but its not really noticeble unless usually about 4-10pm on bad days.

[suckaaa]

Ive been testing my connection a lot using ping plotter pro the superhub would show some packetloss pinging bbc.co.uk but the vmg and dlink would show 0 packet loss and my tracert results to my my network improved by 1ms with the vmng. Also tested using the comand prompt ping -t google.co.uk etc both would show spikes in the network all times of the day, even early morning, gaming the hub felt better my bullets would connect better gears 2 but that game is broken so i dunno. I also test superhub modem mode with dlink gave me horrible results loads of packet loss.

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by suckaaa

Lol was it stolen i dont no i rang 150 indian call centre i said virgin sent it me he checked tht it was registered to a different account put me on hold dunno where he went came back and activated it, havent checked speeds on it though upload seems a little lower

according to VMs own terms and conditions, yes

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by suckaaa

Ive been testing my connection a lot using ping plotter pro the superhub would show some packetloss pinging bbc.co.uk but the vmg and dlink would show 0 packet loss and my tracert results to my my network improved by 1ms with the vmng. Also tested using the comand prompt ping -t google.co.uk etc both would show spikes in the network all times of the day, even early morning, gaming the hub felt better my bullets would connect better gears 2 but that game is broken so i dunno. I also test superhub modem mode with dlink gave me horrible results loads of packet loss.

1ms is nothing. BT increased my ping by 30ms "to keep my line stable", now all my gaming pings are 50ms+. A power cut has nothing to do with line stability.

[Sephiroth]

What does that mean, Qasi? "BT increased my ping by 30 ms". Exactly what did they do and what was the practical effect?

[qasdfdsaq]

First thing was, well I don't know, something in the IP profile I believe that increased my latency by 12ms. This is nothing but an artificial delay generated by BT and I don't know how or why.

Secondly they turned on interleaving, three levels of it, increasing my latency by an additional ~8ms each time. On top of the artificial IP profile delay, my overall ping to/from work has more than doubled, so remote desktop feels a little more sluggish. For some reason a couple days later, my download speed also got capped to about 70% of normal.

Gaming feels considerably more sluggish, plus I'm rarely if ever picked as host now, so more often have to suffer laggy foreign hosts with crappy connections on some other continent. Downloads are obviously slower.

Indian phone support claimed to have spotted the problem and were going to fix it today, but haven't. I'll have to get a line profile reset, apparently.

[Chrysalis]

BT have DLM which automatically controls line paremeters to maintain stability, FTTC is still subject to things like noise interference so BT have kept DLM on.

When they believe the line to be unstable either from excessive CRC/FEC errors or line disconnects (like when you did at the start) then DLM will either enable interleaving or buff up the noise margin or both, there is also varying levels of interleaving so its more than just a on/off setting now.

I think I remember telling you this a week or so back.

I would ring up BTs tech support and explain the line stability was not the line but you playing around with the modem and ask them to reset the profile to its default, then after that plug it in to the router and leave it alone on 24/7.

[Dash: CF noob]

Packet loss seems to have gone.


Last Friday.

[Kymmy]

Firstly please ignore any lost packets, that was me moving cable around, the engineers install and then they were both off for a bit of decorating (hard to wallpaper round the cables) and finally for the 50Mb the superhub rebooting whilst I set up DHCP leases and messed about with the menus..

Comparison time though the first one isn't being used and just feeds into a router with the wifi turned off and nothing else attached.
Virgin Media Business 10Mb




Now this one is being used with two PC's on 24/7 and 4 PC's on during the day/evening
Virgin Media 50Mb Superhub (router mode)




I'm more than happy with those results and if you want to try to use those results to slag off the superhub then honestly..get a life

[Sirius]

My heavily used Super Hub in Modem Mode


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There will be a fair amount of short bust uploading today.