Will Scotland Leave the UK?

[Stephen]

Scotland doesn't want its independence. Just a small minority of its inhabitants.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Scotland doesn't want its independence. Just a small minority of its inhabitants.

Exactly! If the people of Scotland wanted independence so much, the yes campaign would have been running away with this on the opinion polls from day 1. Thankfully the majority of Scots don't buy the propaganda of the SNP.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Chad

Exactly! If the people of Scotland wanted independence so much, the yes campaign would have been running away with this on the opinion polls from day 1. Thankfully the majority of Scots don't buy the propaganda of the SNP.

It's a very good point, and one that I don't think has been really addressed.

I know we live in a democracy, but even a general election is not a 50/ 50 majority vote.

I think on a an issue of this importance the majority required should have been around 65% minimum.

For something of this magnitude should not be decided by one or two percentage points, there should be an overwhelming majority either way.

[spreadsheet]

Originally Posted by Chad

Exactly! If the people of Scotland wanted independence so much, the yes campaign would have been running away with this on the opinion polls from day 1. Thankfully the majority of Scots don't buy the propaganda of the SNP.

I attended a political meeting of Plaid Cymru recently

Leanne Wood stated that they were "watching developments in Scotland with interest"

she is on my LinkedIn account and I messaged her about the burning issue about putting the language thing above all other issues - but she chose to either ignore or overlook my question

what we will have here in Wales, by comparison, is yet more top heavy pyramids of bloated 'do nothing' middlemen yes men politicians on big bucks - face in the pig trough - al la Orwellian Animal Farm as usual and as always - the same sort of middle men that they sent off to a different planet in Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy

[Chad]

Economist criticises currency union rejection:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-26702405

The Scottish government welcomed Professor Young's report, saying it "totally demolishes" the Whitehall analysis, which it says plays on fear and has failed to capture the benefits of formal monetary union.

The alliance of Conservative and Labour on this issue "has been losing the political argument - now they're losing the fiscal argument too," said a spokesman for First Minister Alex Salmond.

A Treasury spokesman commented: "A currency union is not going to happen. The UK government has set out detailed analysis supported by numerous independent voices as to why a currency union is not in the interests of an independent Scotland or the remaining UK.

"This decision is not going to change. This means less than six months from the referendum, the Scottish government still has no plan for what currency they would use".

[Osem]

Salmond seems to think he can dictate what the union he wishes to leave ought to do after the event. What does that say about him? Sounds a lot like 'bullying' to me...

[rhyds]

Originally Posted by spreadsheet

I attended a political meeting of Plaid Cymru recently

Leanne Wood stated that they were "watching developments in Scotland with interest"

she is on my LinkedIn account and I messaged her about the burning issue about putting the language thing above all other issues - but she chose to either ignore or overlook my question

what we will have here in Wales, by comparison, is yet more top heavy pyramids of bloated 'do nothing' middlemen yes men politicians on big bucks - face in the pig trough - al la Orwellian Animal Farm as usual and as always - the same sort of middle men that they sent off to a different planet in Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy

Unfortunately nothing will change in Wales until the valleys stop voting for any idiot wearing red, otherwise we're stuck with Carwyn Jones for the foreseeable future.

I am naturally a Plaid supporter, but I don't agree with their shift out towards the left under Leanne Wood and their attitude towards wind farms (for) and nuclear power (against).

[Russ]

Plaid are watching with interest due to the belief that Scotland leaving the UK could see more funding for Wales.

[Jimi]

Getting closer every day,regardless of what anyone thinks,Scotland WILL vote YES.
A wee thanks must go tae Johann Lamont,the Scottish Labour leader for her attack on Alex Salmond's wife,its worked wonders for the YES campaign.
Here's a wee snippet from the Tory orientated Scotsman.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/john-cu...rget-1-3350579

The no side is beginning to look like a campaign in trouble. In recent weeks, it has seized on many a company’s reservations about independence together with the latest figures on Scotland’s finances to warn us that leaving the UK would be bad for the nation’s economy.

All three unionist parties have made or renewed promises that in the event of a No vote the Scottish Parliament would be given more powers.

Meanwhile, Labour has been making a concerted effort to convince us that the Union offers the brighter hope for a fairer, more equal society.

Unfortunately for Alistair Darling and his team, none of these messages is getting through. Since our last poll four weeks ago, the proportion who think independence would be good for Scotland’s economy has increased by three points to 38 per cent. The proportion who think it would be bad is down three points to 43 per cent.

Pessimists now outnumber optimists by just five points. Last September the figure was 17 points.

[Mr Pharmacist]

So still no facts and only opinions then Jimi?. For every article like that there's probably 50 saying the opposite. A massive thank you must also go to Salmond and Sturgeon as well. Every time they open their gobs, the more and more voters find out about their lack of credibility. And if you're going to stake your reputation (what's left of it anyway) on unreliable opinion polls, then you'll look more stupid than you already are. Why did you not highlight this part of that article? The one piece of good news for the No side is that the vast and indeed increasing majority of No voters (81 per cent) are resolved to vote No even if by September they were to be convinced more devolution was not going to happen. See that's all opinions as well, but because it doesn't do you any good, you omit it. You have to remember the vote is yes or no, not all the other add ons that people have been asked about, and what you're trying to convince yourself with. Chin chin, I'm off to bully my kids.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Jimi

Getting closer every day,regardless of what anyone thinks,Scotland WILL vote YES.
A wee thanks must go tae Johann Lamont,the Scottish Labour leader for her attack on Alex Salmond's wife,its worked wonders for the YES campaign.
Here's a wee snippet from the Tory orientated Scotsman.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/john-cu...rget-1-3350579

You really are as delusional as that big fool Salmond aren't you. No is still miles ahead in all polls.

Also that article doesn't in anyway suggest anything of the sort regarding the Yes campaign.

Face it Bawheed just can't come up with a credible response when someone shoots down anything he or the Yes campaign hit out with.

Nearer were getting to the vote the less people want independence and yet still some people are still deluding themselves the only place saying there is an increase in the yes vote are the traditional nationalists who cannot accept they have got it so wrong. It couldn't have been made clearer that there will be no currency union between an independent Scotland and RUK and still salmond talks as though it's his and only his decision and he will deliver currency union. This whole independence campaign has descended far past comedy and is fast approaching clinical lunacy and national embarrassment and the sooner it ends the better for Scotland. As I said I think salmond knows he's backed a loser with this and is prepping his excuses early mainly that "nasty england" has once again bullied and oppressed the Scottish people to get it's way. This will allow him to keep independence on the burner because he now knows there is a group of people that will go along with him. This bout of national embarrassment will be over only to start off again within 15-20 years it's pathetic.

[Osem]

I have a theory that 'English Jimi' (the guy who needs to cement his 'Scottish' credentials by typing 'tae' at every opportunity) is in fact an English nationalist who's doing his very best to ensure England gains independence by hook or by crook. Trouble is his 'best' really isn't very good...

The polls are showing that Yes is gaining....

[Osem]

Oh dear! We've got a lunatic at loose in E. Europe and we'll have another running Scotland...