09-08-2018, 05:31
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
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I think that post is proving a bit of an inconvenient truth.  |
There are many inconvenient truths in this country Andrew but some seem to close their eyes to them in the hope they will disappear and go way.
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09-08-2018, 07:31
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
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There are many inconvenient truths in this country Andrew but some seem to close their eyes to them in the hope they will disappear and go way. |
Heads in the sand, anything but declare they got it wrong ! The blame game will be next and is already happening - May, the EU, Remainers, immigrants, anybody but the person in the mirror !
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09-08-2018, 08:12
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
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Originally Posted by Hugh
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That was written by a guy who thought the WTO rules were toothless. That may be the case, but they are nowhere near as complicated and onerous as EU rules, which was my point.
Anyway, in the end, we are seeking to make trade deals, are we not?
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09-08-2018, 11:20
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
That was written by a guy who thought the WTO rules were toothless. That may be the case, but they are nowhere near as complicated and onerous as EU rules, which was my point.
Anyway, in the end, we are seeking to make trade deals, are we not?
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That was written by a guy who negotiated WTO deals and tariffs - so he probably knows his subject matter.
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09-08-2018, 13:00
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
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Originally Posted by Hugh
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The original author has also covered the issues specifically for Transport:
https://mobile.twitter.com/DmitryOpi...81440004485120
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Every time I talk about No-Deal Brexit, I refer to issues which "need a fix".
I want to make sure people understand just how serious these 'issues' are.
Ergo: a layperson's thread on trucks & buses under what we know today about no-deal Brexit
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One of his final thoughts:
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12/ I know this thread will likely be weaponized politically by those on the extreme left to hammer those on the right, and dismissed by those on the extreme right as 'project fear'.
I beg however PLEASE at least factor the information above into your planning.
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---------- Post added at 13:00 ---------- Previous post was at 12:54 ----------
The author of the Tweet thread above links the EU site where they have issued a whole set of preparedness notices for all the sectors likely to impacted:
https://ec.europa.eu/info/brexit/bre...ess-notices_en
A few of note:
Road Transport
Maritime Transport
Air Transport
Cannot seem find out equivalent web page ...
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09-08-2018, 14:33
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
His only loyalty to this country is obviously to his pocket it seems.
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Sir Jim Ratcliffe, the founder and chief executive of petrochemicals company Ineos and a high-profile Brexiter, is preparing to move to the tax-free principality on the Côte d’Azur in order to avoid UK taxes on his vast wealth. His fortune is estimated at £21bn.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...k-move-monaco/
https://www.theguardian.com/business...ax-free-monaco
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09-08-2018, 14:53
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
To be fair, if I was worth £21bn the Côte d’Azur would be a damn site more attractive than Bolton 
not that I'm dissing Bolton you understand
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10-08-2018, 17:00
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
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Originally Posted by Hugh
That was written by a guy who negotiated WTO deals and tariffs - so he probably knows his subject matter.
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He comes up Zero on a google search. That's about as much research I was willing to do. If I type in my name I appear on at least the 2nd page of a google search.
I'm not saying he didn't do WTO negotiations but I couldn't verify his credentials, have you been able verify anything? Or were you just going off an unsubstantiated social media post?
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10-08-2018, 17:12
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
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He comes up Zero on a google search. That's about as much research I was willing to do. If I type in my name I appear on at least the 2nd page of a google search.
I'm not saying he didn't do WTO negotiations but I couldn't verify his credentials, have you been able verify anything? Or were you just going off an unsubstantiated social media post?
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What name did you Google? I get loads: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Dm...hrome&ie=UTF-8
There is the link to his page at the organisation for which he now works (his bio says he worked for the Australians at the WTO): https://www.ictsd.org/about-us/dmitry-grozoubinski
An Economist article in which he is quoted: https://www.economist.com/finance-an...a-looks-likely
Also he seems to be all across a number of Australian Government websites with a gov e-mail address.
Also LinkedIn, Twitter, other random stuff....
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10-08-2018, 17:16
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
As Damien says
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Dmitry Grozoubinski is Manager of Strategic Partnerships and Performance at ICTSD. Prior to joining ICTSD, he was a Diplomat and Trade Negotiator with the Australian Permanent Mission to the World Trade Organization, and a Policy Officer at the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade. He was a negotiator at the 11th WTO Ministerial Conference, UNCTAD’s 14th Quadrennial Conference and on the Trade in Services Agreement. Previously, he worked as a trade consultant in Melbourne, Australia and taught at the Monash University Graduate School of Business, from which he holds a Masters in Diplomacy and Trade in addition to his Bachelors in Political Science from Melbourne University. He speaks fluent English and Russian.
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10-08-2018, 17:18
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
If you further down the search results you get meetings where he was listed as a participant as the negotiator to the WTO too.
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10-08-2018, 23:27
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
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If you further down the search results you get meetings where he was listed as a participant as the negotiator to the WTO too.
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My only explanation for anyone who didn't get loads of results with the name "Dmitry Grozoubinski" is that they must have enabled the Chrome Brexit add-in to their browsers 
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11-08-2018, 08:40
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
Russian agent, mate.
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11-08-2018, 09:51
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
Or misspelt the name....
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11-08-2018, 10:05
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Re: Brexit Discussion (Follow First Post Rules!)
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Russian agent, mate.
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Heck yeah, everyone else seems to think there's one on every street corner so it's entirely feasible
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