12-05-2024, 14:20
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Re: The future of television
ITV will be the worst example because they have to introduce artificial delays across the regions to allow for efficient stat muxing on satellite.
I suspect most people don’t know how far behind the stadium they are but many will quickly know if they are behind their neighbours or friends they message during events.
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12-05-2024, 18:42
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Re: The future of television
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ITV will be the worst example because they have to introduce artificial delays across the regions to allow for efficient stat muxing on satellite.
I suspect most people don’t know how far behind the stadium they are but many will quickly know if they are behind their neighbours or friends they message during events.
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...or if they hear a cheer from next door
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12-05-2024, 19:04
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Re: The future of television
I had a look at various regions on satellite - and all were well behind.
Stat muxing doesn't need 20 second delays.
I suspect it is more to get certain audio ditched before broadcast.
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Originally Posted by jfman
ITV will be the worst example because they have to introduce artificial delays across the regions to allow for efficient stat muxing on satellite.
I suspect most people don’t know how far behind the stadium they are but many will quickly know if they are behind their neighbours or friends they message during events.
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12-05-2024, 20:26
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Re: The future of television
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Or of course - those that don't want/need broadband at all.
Jeremy Corbin might have advocated for broadband communism with free broadband for all but I doubt this Government, or the next, or the one after that, or the one after that will.
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Sooner or later, they will have to make sure that everyone is able to access broadband, because that will be our access to everything in the end.
People hate the closure of the banks in the high street, but this doesn’t stop it from happening.
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12-05-2024, 20:31
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Re: The future of television
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Sooner or later, they will have to make sure that everyone is able to access broadband, because that will be our access to everything in the end.
People hate the closure of the banks in the high street, but this doesn’t stop it from happening.
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Yet there are still banks, only fewer of them. A bit like linear television.
I can think of many billions of reasons why broadband won't simply be given away to placate an unrealistic and unnecessary fantasy of ending linear television.
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12-05-2024, 20:54
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Re: The future of television
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Sooner or later, they will have to make sure that everyone is able to access broadband, because that will be our access to everything in the end.
People hate the closure of the banks in the high street, but this doesn’t stop it from happening.
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Many of those who moan about the closure of branches are likely the same people who already do their banking online and don't visit the branches. They just want them there just in case.
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12-05-2024, 22:17
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Re: The future of television
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Sooner or later, they will have to make sure that everyone is able to access broadband, because that will be our access to everything in the end.
People hate the closure of the banks in the high street, but this doesn’t stop it from happening.
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So are ‘they’ going to make broadband free … you know, like it’s free to put up an aerial and receive radio waves? Maybe that’s a new thing to do with the TV licence?
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12-05-2024, 23:47
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Yes I agree!!!!!
Its not like there are no commercials so what are ppl paying for??
I have read over the years alot of people do not pay and they dont find out but then I read they can pull up outside your house and detect if your watching TV..
Yes I know with CRT they could (Just check for various signals (550am is one)) but with these flat screen things I dont think they give off any RF do they??
I mean not like a CRT that if you pull in front of somones house and goto 550am you can tell if its on.... (It makes a certain sound)
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12-05-2024, 23:57
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Re: The future of television
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Yes I agree!!!!!
Its not like there are no commercials so what are ppl paying for??
I have read over the years alot of people do not pay and they dont find out but then I read they can pull up outside your house and detect if your watching TV..
Yes I know with CRT they could (Just check for various signals (550am is one)) but with these flat screen things I dont think they give off any RF do they??
I mean not like a CRT that if you pull in front of somones house and goto 550am you can tell if its on.... (It makes a certain sound)
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No they've never been able to check, all their stories of detector vans etc were just scare tactics. Empty vans with a dish or aerial on tip driving round random locations.
Many people do not pay the TV licence now as they feel its outdated and wrong. Or they just don't like the BBC. Some don't pay as they no longer watch live broadcast TV others don't pay but still watch.
BBC channels themselves do not have any adverts at all. All other channels do have adverts but even if you didn't watch any BBC or listen to the radio then you still must pay.
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14-05-2024, 12:41
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Re: The future of television
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So are ‘they’ going to make broadband free … you know, like it’s free to put up an aerial and receive radio waves? Maybe that’s a new thing to do with the TV licence?
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I have no idea; it was a proposal a few years ago, but I haven’t seen any government enthusiasm for this.
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Yet there are still banks, only fewer of them. A bit like linear television.
I can think of many billions of reasons why broadband won't simply be given away to placate an unrealistic and unnecessary fantasy of ending linear television.
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You and your linear TV hang up!
It is pretty self evident that broadcasts receivable by aerial will no longer be available in the foreseeable future, and after that it will all be via IPTV. The ‘linear channel’ issue is a separate consideration from that because they could still carry on as now (but via IPTV) if the channels chose (or were compelled) to do so.
We now have the FAST channels as well, which in my opinion are likely to survive these changes as they are streamed anyway.
So everyone will, in fact, need broadband to receive their programmes. Perhaps the licence fee could be adjusted and re-purposed to pay for basic broadband speeds to enable people to watch their TVs.
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14-05-2024, 16:42
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Re: The future of television
It’s not my hang up I’ve not started a thread at least once a year on the last ten proclaiming the end is nigh
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14-05-2024, 19:21
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Re: The future of television
I’m just telling it as it is, jfman. Surely, these forums are to raise items of interest and discuss. You really don’t have to participate if you don’t want to.
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14-05-2024, 19:24
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Re: The future of television
So we've now pinned down that linear television - broadcast schedules running for (the majority of) 24 hours a day, every day where actual people in different locations watch the exact same moment at the exact same time is here to stay.
You just think they'll be over IP based services, not DTT, satellite or cable?
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14-05-2024, 20:07
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Quote:
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No they've never been able to check, all their stories of detector vans etc were just scare tactics. Empty vans with a dish or aerial on tip driving round random locations.
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Ya I figured that!! (Scare tactics)
It seemed to work though on many.......
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14-05-2024, 20:23
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Re: The future of television
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Ya I figured that!! (Scare tactics)
It seemed to work though on many.......
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No longer though. Many people has stopped paying the TV (license)tax. Either genuinely no longer watching TV as streaming serives like Netflix and Disney+ are all they watch and others just out of being fed up with the BBC.
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