Trump’s Troubles

[Pierre]

Bottom line is that they have four months.

If they’re going to replace Biden and have any decent campaign time, it have to be in the next month. gives them Aug, Sep, Oct. But they have to have both people lined up.

Bottom line is they have to pay off Harris, and it’s going to cost them.

If they don’t get Biden off the ticket by August, he’s running.

It’s not like here, in the US you are predominantly voting for the man not the party.

You can’t just drop someone in.

[1andrew1]

The only person who can drop Biden is Biden. Sadly, he's not showing any enthusiasm to do so.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The only person who can drop Biden is Biden. Sadly, he's not showing any enthusiasm to do so.

He's not pulling the strings even in his own head. Whether it's his wife, Obama or someone else the lights are on but no-one is home.

When they drop him there's inevitably going to be questions over who is running the country. More importantly: who has been? He's not got into this condition overnight and the Democrats, and allies in the media, are complicit in at best a deceit and at worst a fraud by keeping him in office and stage managing the primaries.

Trump will have a field day on the campaign given the accusations levelled at him.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Bottom line is that they have four months.

If they’re going to replace Biden and have any decent campaign time, it have to be in the next month. gives them Aug, Sep, Oct. But they have to have both people lined up.

Bottom line is they have to pay off Harris, and it’s going to cost them.

If they don’t get Biden off the ticket by August, he’s running.

It’s not like here, in the US you are predominantly voting for the man not the party.

You can’t just drop someone in.

They defo need someone before the convention in mid-August. After that Harris is (realistically) the only alternate game in town. Party rules do permit a process to pick someone else if Biden withdraws but it's late in the day to elevate some Governor with limited national profile to the top of the ticket.

Begs the question why Biden picked Harris at all?

[Dude111]

I read on City-daya that Mr. Biden was gonna drop off....

If he does,will that make Mr. trump the winner??

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Dude111

I read on City-daya that Mr. Biden was gonna drop off....

If he does,will that make Mr. trump the winner??

Why don't you stand Dude? You'd be a better President . Free chocolate milk all round

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by jfman

He's not pulling the strings even in his own head. Whether it's his wife, Obama or someone else the lights are on but no-one is home.

When they drop him there's inevitably going to be questions over who is running the country. More importantly: who has been? He's not got into this condition overnight and the Democrats, and allies in the media, are complicit in at best a deceit and at worst a fraud by keeping him in office and stage managing the primaries.

Trump will have a field day on the campaign given the accusations levelled at him.

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They defo need someone before the convention in mid-August. After that Harris is (realistically) the only alternate game in town. Party rules do permit a process to pick someone else if Biden withdraws but it's late in the day to elevate some Governor with limited national profile to the top of the ticket.

Begs the question why Biden picked Harris at all?

Can Biden be removed from the ticket?
It would be difficult. Biden faced minimal opposition in his party’s primaries and has secured 99% of the pledged delegates to the convention. Those delegates will be chosen in large part for their loyalty to the president. Absent extraordinary circumstances — and a backup plan — it’s unlikely they would remove him from the ticket.

Any challenger to Biden would have to announce his or her candidacy before the formal vote, publicly challenging the incumbent in a high-stakes attempted party coup.

[jfman]

There’s no removing him if he* is unwilling.

*whoever is in charge

[Pierre]

It looks like President Jill Biden wants to stay in power, so the poor animated corpse she insists on abusing will have to carry on for a bit longer.

Let’s see, the next Presidential debate might do it.

If he does badly and Madam President still refuses to yield the Dems have a stark choice. Stick with him or try to invoke the 25th amendment…………….or slip something into his warm milk before bed.

[jfman]

The thing is Democrats will absolutely be playing their base like a fiddle with the usual lines - abortion rights and civil rights up for grabs in November. Yet, they’re doing nothing but emboldening Trump and making it easier for him to win the longer this charade continues. It’s been predictable for some time that Trump would run and he could be expected to win the Republican nomination.

They’ve completely abdicated their responsibility to the country (and arguably, if their hyperbole is true, the world) to field the best candidate they could with the best platform they could.

There’s zero chance Biden takes part in another debate even if he is the candidate in November.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

There’s zero chance Biden takes part in another debate even if he is the candidate in November.

We’ll find out on Thursday

[jfman]

Suspect the Governors have already decided in their call. The only question is how hard Biden makes it. While procedurally he can cling onto the nomination, he toasts his legacy if he does and loses in November anyway.

Those coming out against him will only increase in their number and seniority in the weeks ahead. Harris might actually threaten 25. She would absolutely be within her constitutional powers to do so, and no chance Biden wins the vote at Cabinet.

[jfman]

Would love to know what genius said “blame being tired because of jetlag” as if the leader of the free world might do it all over Microsoft Teams.

[Mr K]

The best hope for the World is 3 major cardiac/stroke events , Putin, Trump and Biden. Doctors have a lot to answer for keeping these geriatric psychopaths going.

I guess the argument against this is that it's undemocratic but it is evidence for age limits for holding office.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Damien

I guess the argument against this is that it's undemocratic but it is evidence for age limits for holding office.

Could say the same about the lower age limit and arguably term limits.