Online Safety Bill

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Russ

Kruger-Dunning effect again. There’s a hell of a lot more involved than you know. Watching a couple of videos of teams does not give you any legitimate insight.

Way off topic too.

Feel free to provide more insight if you wish, adults using the internet to groom children isn't off topic at all. Ofcom are prioritising their use of the Online Safety Act to protect children.

[Russ]

Asking what methods hunting groups use *is* off topic. And not something I’m going to discuss in public. If as you claim you speak to hunter teams and they choose to tell you their methods then I’d describe them as unprofessional at best, and dangerous at worst.

Your reasons for wanting to know how we work are of course your own.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Feel free to provide more insight if you wish, adults using the internet to groom children isn't off topic at all. Ofcom are prioritising their use of the Online Safety Act to protect children.

It most certainly is waaaay off topic.

[RichardCoulter]

I'd like to draw the attention of those who have children with a smartphone, particularly boys, to an activity labelled sextortion which has resulted in suicides.This is a type of blackmail where threats are made to share intimate pictures of them unless they meet their demands for either money or more pictures. The usual platforms are Instagram or Snapchat and predominantly come from Nigeria. Manuals & scripts are being shared throughout Nigeria telling people how to carry out these crimes.

Whilst it's difficult to obtain accurate figures, because there's a massive amount of underreporting due to embarrassment and shame, the US had 27,000 cases last
year, resulting in 27 deaths.

One young man, Jordan, ended his own life just 6 hours after being targeted. He sent them some money, but they said it wasn't enough. After having no more money to send, he then pleaded with them not to share the pictures or he would probably kill himself.

The response was to say good,do it now or we'll force you to do it and, tragically, he did.

The advice to children is to never accept friend requests from someone you don't know, never let people take you off platform, don't pay them any money, block them and inform your parents or a trusted adult, however difficult this might be.

The BBC's Cyber Correspondent, Joe Tidy, says that Teachers have been alerted and asked to warn pupils about this.

Regularly checking children's devices is often the best way to keep children safe

From about 0:35:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001zvvt

[peanut]

Just look at the stories from Dan Lobb and Joel Dommett. Moral of the story is.... Never ever send a dick pic.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Russ

Your reasons for wanting to know how we work are of course your own.

Originally Posted by peanut

Just look at the stories from Dan Lobb and Joel Dommett. Moral of the story is.... Never ever send a dick pic.

Dan Lobb sent a dick pic, what was Lobb on

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by peanut

Just look at the stories from Dan Lobb and Joel Dommett. Moral of the story is.... Never ever send a dick pic.

Totally agree, but children lack the wisdom & maturity to think about the possible consequences, which is why I (and others) are keen to get this information out as far and wide as possible.

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Teachers say that innapropriate content and too much screen time on mobile phones is damaging the communication skills and mental health of children.

If you wish to you can gain some insight into how teachers are using lessons to teach children how to remain safe here in the first report of this news bulletin:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00205ks

[RichardCoulter]

Fleetwood Enforcers have provided a free & anonymous number for anyone to call who is having innapropriate sexual thoughts about people under 16 or is speaking sexually to them. For help please call:

0808 1000 900

[peanut]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Fleetwood Enforcers have provided a free & anonymous number for anyone to call who is having innapropriate sexual thoughts about people under 16 or is speaking sexually to them. For help please call:

0808 1000 900

A new low for CF... I'm really starting to worry about you now.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by peanut

A new low for CF... I'm really starting to worry about you now.

Why??

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Why??

You maybe just maybe seem to be just a teeny weeny little bit obsessed with the subject.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Fleetwood Enforcers have provided a free & anonymous number for anyone to call who is having innapropriate sexual thoughts about people under 16 or is speaking sexually to them. For help please call:

0808 1000 900

Seriously?wTH are you posting that in here for?
How is that in any way related to the actual topic under discussion.

Very weird

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Fleetwood Enforcers have provided a free & anonymous number for anyone to call who is having innapropriate sexual thoughts about people under 16 or is speaking sexually to them. For help please call:

0808 1000 900

For the record, the phone system is not anonymous, digital calls can be traced quite easily.

How about getting back to the topic, I fail to see how that post is usedful to anyone on this forum.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

You maybe just maybe seem to be just a teeny weeny little bit obsessed with the subject.

The Online Safety Act has given Ofcom the power to protect vulnerable people from harm and has rightly focused on children first.

We all have a duty/responsibility to protect children from harm and prevention is better than cure, so i'm really pleased that Fleetwood Enforcers are publicising Stop It Now.

I wouldn't say i'm obsessed with the subject, though it is fair to say that it's a subject close to my heart for reasons i'd rather not go into.

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Originally Posted by Paul

For the record, the phone system is not anonymous, digital calls can be traced quite easily.

How about getting back to the topic, I fail to see how that post is usedful to anyone on this forum.

Paedophiles/Hebophiles exist in all walks of life and are obviously not going to publicise their private thoughts about this.

I think that the 'anonymous' promise is in relation to the information they give to the call handler.

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This is just starting. I'm afraid I'll have to listen to it tomorrow as i'm really tired, but it looks like Ireland is also becoming concerned about young people & their smartphone use.

Greystones made global headlines a year ago when, concerned by rising anxiety levels among their pupils, the headteachers from all the primary schools in the town invited parents to sign a voluntary pact or code; not to buy their child a smartphone before they moved up to secondary school. In Ireland that’s usually at age 12. Beth McLeod talks to teachers, pupils and parents about their reaction to the initiative. Has there been any backlash? At one of the town’s secondary schools she meets an assistant headteacher who is passionately demanding a culture change around phone use for older students too, warning parents that although they think they are giving their children access to the internet, they are really giving the internet access to their children. She speaks to teenagers about their views on what is the right age to be on social media and asks the Irish Health Minister what the government is doing to hold tech companies to account.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct5mss

[RichardCoulter]

This excellent series that looks at all matters concerning the mind today looked at the impact of internet addiction on teenage brains.

From about halfway through:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002020d