Formula 1 2009 Season [may contain real time spoilers] - Page 50

Kymmy · 03-09-2009, 15:41

Well he's gone and done it... He's joined Ferrari for the rest of the season.. and what do you know...Hedie's linked page on Ferrari.com has suddenly vanished

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8231165.stm

hedgie · 03-09-2009, 15:44

Should have copied the page it had a driver, or three for each letter from A (Alonso) to V(Villenueve). D'oh Thanks Kymmy V Was Verstappen

Good luck to Fisi and to Liuzzi who is tipped fro the Force India drive.

Let hope Massa is back on the grid next year.

Kymmy · 03-09-2009, 15:47

Oh the joys of Googles cache

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Waiting list

It might not be the best season for the Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro, but the possibility to drive one of the Reds must be very appetising, at least when one considers the number of drivers, who have been brought up by the media and the fans and even by some of the drivers themselves as candidates for Felipe Massa’s F60 number 3, without even considering some suggestions from the afterworld…
The list is so long that almost every letter in the alphabet has a corresponding driver…but let’s see the details:

A as in Fernando Alonso
B as in Jules Bianchi, Mirko Bortolotti and Sebastien Bourdais
C as in David Coulthard
D as in Anthony Davidson
F as in Giancarlo Fisichella and Luca Filippi
G as in Marc Gené
H as in Nico Hulkenberg
K as in Robert Kubica
L as in André Lotterer and Vitantonio Liuzzi
P as in Nelson Piquet (Jr.) and Giorgio Pantano
R as in Valentino Rossi and Davide Rigon
S as in Takuma Sato and Bruno Senna
T as in Jarno Trulli
V as in Jos Verstappen
Before anyone feels offended we want to underline that we have the highest respect for all of these drivers and we apologise also in the name of those who brought up their names to those who haven’t been mentioned, like Lewis Hamilton or Jenson Button, but there’s always time for some fresh ideas.

sherer · 03-09-2009, 17:41

looks like Liuzzi will get the Force India seat. Wonder how Fisi will do, when he is good he is great but he doesn't have his day of days very often.

With him and Kimi in the same team they can both have off days

Jon T · 03-09-2009, 17:44

Fisi switches to Ferarri for rest of season:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8231165.stm

Hom3r · 03-09-2009, 18:42

I told my boss this and he cried

He runs our F1 dream team league, and there have been a few changes this season, but I have just accepted his auto swap rather than a free one, just as well really I'm on top and heading for £150 1st prize.

Kymmy · 04-09-2009, 18:32

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

Possible sour grapes from Nelson Piquet?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8229787.stm

I doubt if he'll ever get another drive after this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8239001.stm

sherer · 04-09-2009, 23:27

so far I haven't seen one quote from Piquet about this so until he speaks out I will keep an open mind.

Kymmy · 05-09-2009, 09:25

Strange though that a brazilian TV company were first to get the news...

As I said in a previous post whether he did it or not I think that sour grapes is a major factor in this story suddenly coming out..

And just the possibilities that NPjr could have done it will mean that a lot of the main teams in most motorsport events will not now want anything to do with him..

sherer · 05-09-2009, 12:03

as you said the reports came out from Brasil which would point to a certain someone put sometimes two and two can add up to five.

Lets wait and see, there are too many variables that make it almost impossible to calculate and communicate to the drivers anyway. He he had crashed differently too they could have just had waved yellows

hedgie · 07-09-2009, 10:46

Badoer blames the media for being slow !

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78383

I'm sorry but if the car can win the race then it should not also be propping up the tail end of the field.

---------- Post added at 10:46 ---------- Previous post was at 10:30 ----------

Liuzzi confirmed at Force India this morning....Blimey a reserve driver getting first dibs at a race seat vacancy !!

sherer · 07-09-2009, 11:07

I think if anything the testing rules don't help and there should have been clauses in there to allow this. Badoer hasn't tested this year with the new car and that didn't help, if it had been 1-2 years ago I think he might have done better.

Will be interesting to see what happens at Force India now, Monza is a different track to Spa so they might not repeat the performance anyway

hedgie · 07-09-2009, 11:26

I'm not saying Badoer should have been challenging Kimi, but he should at least have been challenging for points. He was never even close.

I think Fridays are a much underutilised resource. Given that the teams are all there with the kit , circuits providing marshalling and safety cover and paying spectators looking to see stuff why not let them run three cars on Friday with the third car being available for a pay driver in the case of teams looking for funding or a real test for rookie drivers in a representative environment. To limit track crowding teams could be limited to two cars on track at one time. Tweak the engine regs to give teams an allocation of engines for the year to be split between the drivers as necessary. That way the Friday drivers could always have the old engines............

Kymmy · 07-09-2009, 11:35

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Originally Posted by hedgie

I'm not saying Badoer should have been challenging Kimi, but he should at least have been challenging for points. He was never even close.....

Not even sure any driver could have come into a car with little testing and in two races challanged for points.. You also have to remember that the Ferrari's at that time weren't known to be even competative and after Massa withdrew all development would have been switched over to Kimi.

But saying that Badoer was making stupid mistakes and I don't think it was timing that was an issue but instead his constistant off-road spins..

hedgie · 07-09-2009, 11:50

Your teamate is always the benchmark. If the car is competitive you should both be at the front, if its not then you both be in the mire !. Lets see how Liuzzi does at Force India I seem to recall Sutil and Fisi were there or thereabouts,

According to Forix the 2009 comparison is.................

Advantage position: Giancarlo Fisichella 7 (58.3%), Adrian Sutil 5 (41.7%)
Advantage time: Giancarlo Fisichella 6 (50.0%), Adrian Sutil 6 (50.0%)

Thats pretty close

Using the same stats you can see why Bourdais was released...

Advantage position: Sébastien Bourdais 2 (22.2%), Sébastien Buemi 7 (77.8%)
Advantage time: Sébastien Bourdais 3 (33.3%), Sébastien Buemi 6 (66.7%)

Thats not so close