Football Season 2010/2011 - Page 48

gazzae · 01-11-2010, 15:44

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

The referee was disgrace, the linesman flagged for the handleball, but the ref, overuled and allowed play to go on WITHOUT telling the keeper.

No he didn't. The linesman did not flag until the ball was in the back of the net.

It's the old adage play to the whistle. Spurs only have themselves to blame.

The referee could have made himself clearer and yes it was an error not to penalise the handball, but the fact remains he did not signal or blow his whistle for a free kick. Gomez assumed it was a free kick and we all know where assumption gets you.

If Spurs passed the ball as well as they pass the buck maybe the result would have been different.

**Damien** · 01-11-2010, 15:57

Yeah, United were perfectly within their rights. It is questionable sportsmanship when Nani knew that Gomes was placing it for the free kick and was looking towards the ref for guidance but you can't expect that in the modern game. It's also worth remembering Spurs were pretty dire and while, of course, they could get a goal against the run of play I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that this didn't have an effect on the final outcome.

Spurs were screwed but screwed within the rules of the game. In a fair world there would have been a free kick for the handball but, having missed out on that, Spurs should have coped better rather than letting Nani score. Weird case where no one is wrong or right. Spurs deeply unlucky and entitled to feel cheated whereas United are correct that the goal was right to be given.

gazzae · 01-11-2010, 16:40

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Originally Posted by Damien

Yeah, United were perfectly within their rights. It is questionable sportsmanship when Nani knew that Gomes was placing it for the free kick and was looking towards the ref for guidance but you can't expect that in the modern game. It's also worth remembering Spurs were pretty dire and while, of course, they could get a goal against the run of play I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that this didn't have an effect on the final outcome..

As questionable as a player hiding behind a keeper in the hope he doesn't notice him.

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Originally Posted by Damien

Spurs were screwed but screwed within the rules of the game. In a fair world there would have been a free kick for the handball but, having missed out on that, Spurs should have coped better rather than letting Nani score. Weird case where no one is wrong or right. Spurs deeply unlucky and entitled to feel cheated whereas United are correct that the goal was right to be given

Replace unlucky with stupid and you're closer to the mark.

Pog66 · 01-11-2010, 17:40

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Originally Posted by Damien

. It is questionable sportsmanship when Nani knew that Gomes was placing it for the free kick and was looking towards the ref for guidance but you can't expect that in the modern game..

Why - Nani have realised that the ref hadn't blown (and furthermore double checked with the ref) before scoring. Gomes must have also suddenly realised as he attempted to save Nani's shot. All in all a smart bit of play from Nani in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

The ref can disallow anything right up until he restarts the game plus if your going to play advantage you have a few seconds to see if there actually is one

Rather than stopping play, the referee may allow play to continue if doing so will benefit the team against which an offence has been committed. This is known as "playing an advantage". The referee may "call back" play and penalise the original offence if the anticipated advantage does not ensue within a short period

I understand that - I inferred that Arthur was suggesting that goals had been disallowed after a game had finished!!. That's what I was after links for.

Thanks anyway!!

TheDaddy · 01-11-2010, 17:54

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Originally Posted by Pog66

I understand that - I inferred that Arthur was suggesting that goals had been disallowed after a game had finished!!. That's what I was after links for.

Thanks anyway!!

So you were, should have looked at who you were responding to before I replied

**Damien** · 01-11-2010, 22:38

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...a-fa-tottenham

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Harry Redknapp today threatened the Football Association with a post-match media blackout if they charge him for his outspoken attack on the referee Mark Clattenburg.

Wonder if 'Arry will include his column in The Sun with that? I don't think he has the ability not to tal to the press to be honest.

punky · 01-11-2010, 23:19

The Sun is a personal thing and not tied to his job as manager of Spurs.

Let's face it, the media love Harry and Harry loves the media. No way would he pull a Fergie. He's just trying to make a point. A valid one IMO. If he can't tell the truth then what's the point of an interview?

BTW when he stormed off after that guy called him a wheeler-dealer he was interview by him a week later (transfer deadline day). Suffice to say the Sky man was very contrite.

TheDaddy · 02-11-2010, 17:28

The Football Association will take no formal action against the Tottenham boss for his criticism of referee Mark Clattenburg after Spurs' 2-0 defeat.

Love the photo they used of Harry in the article

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ur/9151607.stm

Arthurgray50@blu · 02-11-2010, 17:41

Even though Harry only got a warning over the comments, which were correct, you notice that the FA or PL haven't said anything about the goal, being ruled out.

I wonder what game Disgraceful Clattenburg will ref next, Prem or Champ.

Shadow Demon UK · 02-11-2010, 18:32

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

The Football Association will take no formal action against the Tottenham boss for his criticism of referee Mark Clattenburg after Spurs' 2-0 defeat.

Love the photo they used of Harry in the article

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ur/9151607.stm

If Ferguson had got away with saying something similar there would be an uproar. How hes got away with this is a joke.

**Damien** · 02-11-2010, 19:07

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK

If Ferguson had got away with saying something similar there would be an uproar. How hes got away with this is a joke.

Oh please. This is the guy who refuses to talk to the BBC, often cancels press conferences and bans certain journalists from Old Trafford if he disagrees with something they have written. All without much of a fuss being kicked up. If Benetez had done something similar they would have been uproar.

Fergie is one of the cabal of managers well protected by the press. Him, 'Arry, Hughes, Allardyce and O'Neill.

Although at least Harry (and Sir Alex obviously) is a genuinely good manager with proven success (top 4 finish is something) and a team that plays decent football.

Uncle Peter · 02-11-2010, 21:14

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Originally Posted by Damien

Oh please. This is the guy who refuses to talk to the BBC, often cancels press conferences and bans certain journalists from Old Trafford if he disagrees with something they have written. All without much of a fuss being kicked up. If Benetez had done something similar they would have been uproar.

Fergie is one of the cabal of managers well protected by the press. Him, 'Arry, Hughes, Allardyce and O'Neill.

Although at least Harry (and Sir Alex obviously) is a genuinely good manager with proven success (top 4 finish is something) and a team that plays decent football.

I think you can safely add Roy Hodgson to the LMA/News International funny handshake club too. I wonder if they also wear special pointy hoods when they're dancing around the bonfire with effigies of those nasty foreign managers

02-11-2010, 21:35

I have to say "Well done to Spurs"

Hom3r · 02-11-2010, 21:37

Inter who?

**Damien** · 02-11-2010, 21:45

Bale was immense. Heaven knows how Spurs will keep him...