Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797] - Page 471

Rchivist · 23-05-2008, 13:15

There be strange things going on on the BT network- pointed out by a poster on BT Beta forums
http://www.beta.bt.com/bta/forums/me...ID=22635#22635

go to bt.com and do a site search for webwise using their site search box
you now get a 404 page when following the single search result link.

http://www2.bt.com/0?com.bea.event.t...oLDesc=KB_1167

If this link is modified by adding a webwise directory and taking out the 0 before the ? it does then work
http://www2.bt.com/webwise/?com.bea....oLDesc=KB_1167

The ordinary links to the BT Webwise FASTHOSTS page
http://www2.bt.com/0?com.bea.event.t...oLDesc=KB_1167
and the mirrored bt.com Webwise pages
http://www.productsandservices.bt.co...=CON-WEBWISE-I
work normally.

A google search on KB_1167 turns up a forum post with a very similar link, to Webwise, which DOES work - here
forum link
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&ct=...rze4kjn9fQp9Qg
posted link containing the term KB_1167
http://www.webwise.bt.com/webwise/in...oLDesc=KB_1167

It's probably nothing - but then it is BT, and it is only 3 days before the trials are supposed to start...

I've popped in a query to the webmaster on bt.com using their Contact Us black hole creator.

Update - now all the search results from bt.com seem to be bad links, producing a "page not available" page.
Time to ring Russia?

they were supposed to be doing BT Broadband Office maintenance this morning and yesterday, so maybe that's it. and of course the Business platform should be nothing to do with the Phorm equipment.

---------- Post added at 13:15 ---------- Previous post was at 11:59 ----------

Just noticed that the BTYahoo! official ISP help pages search box does not know anything about "webwise".

zero hits, likewise for "phorm"

That won't look too good in court. Informed consent? Good grief! (as Charlie Brown used to say)

(that's in addition to the broken bt.com search box mentioned above)

Looks like it will be an interesting bank holiday weekend on BT!

NTLVictim · 23-05-2008, 13:26

Unless of course they've bailed out...

AlexanderHanff · 23-05-2008, 14:22

Zero share movement today for Phorm...maybe something is going on...

mine is the one with The Catcher in the Rye book in the pocket...

Alexander Hanff

icsys · 23-05-2008, 14:32

Very strange.
I use Selftrade to follow share prices.
Phorm appear to be completely static with no movement or updates. The last time stamp was 07:59

I have just been into my share dealing account for a 'buy' price and cannot deal in Phorm (PHRM)(PHRM REG S) only PHORM INC COM STK USD0.001 (DI)(PHRX) is available to trade.
Trading suspended?

SelfProtection · 23-05-2008, 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by icsys

Very strange.
I use Selftradeto follow share prices.
Phorm appear to be completely static with no movement or updates. The last time stamp was 07:59
Trading suspended?

Sorry couldn't resist this one!

http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/...comment-163362

icsys · 23-05-2008, 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by icsys

I have just been into my share dealing account for a 'buy' price and cannot deal in Phorm (PHRM)(PHRM REG S) only PHORM INC COM STK USD0.001 (DI)(PHRX) is available to trade.
Trading suspended?

As I mentioned a while back, there was suggestion on the BT forums that Phorm were being investigated with regard to deliberately misrepresenting the potential value of the company thereby misleading the stock market and share buyers by stating they had signed a deal with Virgin Media (who have now made it publicly clear that they never signed any contract to use Webwise).

It has never been confirmed if such an investigation is underway but one of the concequences of it could be, their shares suspended.

Then again, as there is no confirmation of the above, there could be another completely legitimate explanation why two separate brokers will not allow trading in Phorm Inc (Reg S) (PHRM) stock.

NTLVictim · 23-05-2008, 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by icsys

...there could be another completely legitimate explanation why two separate brokers will not allow trading in Phorm Inc (Reg S) (PHRM) stock.

..Try a few more and get back to us?

fidbod · 23-05-2008, 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by icsys

As I mentioned a while back, there was suggestion on the BT forums that Phorm were being investigated with regard to deliberately misrepresenting the potential value of the company thereby misleading the stock market and share buyers by stating they had signed a deal with Virgin Media (who have now made it publicly clear that they never signed any contract to use Webwise).

It has never been confirmed if such an investigation is underway but one of the concequences of it could be, their shares suspended.

Then again, as there is no confirmation of the above, there could be another completely legitimate explanation why two separate brokers will not allow trading in Phorm Inc (Reg S) (PHRM) stock.

Unfortunately if trading in the securities had been suspended, it would have been annouced via the regulatory news service (RNS).

Dephormation · 23-05-2008, 16:33

I wonder how the FT will spin this.

NTLVictim · 23-05-2008, 16:40

While we are waiting for news, a thought occurs to me...if some worm from an ISP says to you "what have you got to hide?" (as some VM **** said to a poster on here the other week), I believe you can sue them for slander.

When an individual or company brings a libel or slander action, they must show:

that the words are defamatory of them;
that the words would be understood to refer to them by even one other person; and
that the words have been published to a third party.

A libel claimant does not have to prove that the words are false or to prove that he has in fact suffered any loss. Damage is presumed. A slander claimant will need to prove that the defamatory allegations caused actual damage, unless the slander is within certain categories.

Any lawyers reading this fancy helping us out for a percentage?

pentode · 23-05-2008, 16:57

Even Firefox is doing a Phorm... see http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05...ox_data_snoop/

What I intended asking was would VM actually tell us when to opt in or to opt out... or would they not bother. Just how would we know?

Dave

r1ch · 23-05-2008, 16:57

Maybe the problem is with SelfTrade - Google is showing movement for today.

Dephormation · 23-05-2008, 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by r1ch

Maybe the problem is with SelfTrade - Google is showing movement for today.

Unless I'm very much mistaken, looking at that graphic, if you hover you'll see the prices are all yesterdays values... not todays.

Update; just did a double check on another share price, shows todays date in the chart... so confirmed Google have no data for Phorm today.

Rchivist · 23-05-2008, 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by r1ch

Maybe the problem is with SelfTrade - Google is showing movement for today.

There seems to be some "unknown" activity of possibly 500 shares, but it doesn't show as a buy or a sell on ShareCrazy, iii, or ADVN - iii shows zero volume as do the others

Oh well - sit on hands till Tuesday...

mark777 · 23-05-2008, 17:22

This one shows one trade for today, but at 16:45. This is, I believe, after after the close.

http://www.lse.co.uk/ShareTrades.asp...re=phorm_reg_s

Perhaps it's simply that nobody wants to buy the things.