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Old 18-05-2024, 16:37   #661
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Re: Online Safety Bill

The Prime Minister spoke about the Online Safety Act a few times in an interview from two days ago:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1RzRN02G_xk

He also said that his children didn't get a smartphone until their last year of primary school.
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Old 18-05-2024, 17:03   #662
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Well if enough people resist this and complain it will eventually be dropped........

But the people have to speak up and make their voice heard!! (Before this goes into effect)
That worked well in Wales re the speed limit
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Old 18-05-2024, 19:08   #663
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Meanwhile….. a bit of common sense ?

On Tuesday Saqib Bhatti, the technology minister, told a Westminster Hall debate: “We are aware of the ongoing debate regarding the age at which children should have a smartphone. We recognise the risks that technology such as smartphones pose, but I would argue that a ban would not necessarily achieve the outcome we wish.
“The decision on whether a child should have access to a smartphone should not be one for government.”
Excellent

There are plenty of people bleating on about this,thankfully they are not the ones who make the laws and those who do make the laws see this as unworkable and costly to implement even if they tried. It will go the way of the dodo eventually.
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Old 18-05-2024, 21:30   #664
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Well if enough people resist this and complain it will eventually be dropped........

But the people have to speak up and make thier voice heard!! (Before this goes into effect)
Yes, but who would they be able to vote for to achieve this. All the political parties appear to be as woke as each other!
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Old 18-05-2024, 21:33   #665
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Yes, but who would they be able to vote for to achieve this. All the political parties appear to be as woke as each other!
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Doesn't mean for the most part it's true
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Doesn't mean for the most part it's true
Did you mean "not true" ?

Either way, I dont understand what wokeness has to do with children owning phones.
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Yes, but who would they be able to vote for to achieve this. All the political parties appear to be as woke as each other!
Ya if they are all for this,it might be hard I dunno.........

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That worked well in Wales re the speed limit
Ya I see wha ya mean!!
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Old 19-05-2024, 20:12   #669
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The mental health of MP's is being impacted by incessant trolling on top of the pressures of the job, so much so that one member of Parliament tried to take his own life.

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The programme reveals shocking testimony including one former government minister who tells us ‘Politics has left me a broken human being.’ A young MP describes attempting to take his own life, revealing to the BBC that he is not alone.

This programme asks whether the mental health crisis is affecting MPs' ability to govern. Many say it does, and that good people are simply being driven out or away from public life.
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I’m not condoning such attacks on politicians. But the hatred is understandable when the member (or party) in question has a rich (no pun) history of treating the common man with contempt whilst lining the pockets of their wealthy benefactors.
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Doesn't mean for the most part it's true
Are mobile phones woke or anti-woke?
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Are mobile phones woke or anti-woke?
I suppose a lot of people think catering to the tiny affected minority over a vast unaffected majority can be taken as being woke. Probably because they like to get their voices heard above whatever that's not necessary at the time. Just to look like they are 'special, trendy or current'.

I knew what OLD BOY meant, and it shouldn't take that much working out. But it doesn't stop people doing the same thing as above though. Question whatever just for the sake of feeling superior or just being antagonistic.
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Re: Online Safety Bill

There's a long FT article on the subject of a middle way for smart phones and children. Some parts of it:
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Instead schools could “consult [students]. They will say, no phones in class. Let’s have some lunchtimes without phones, but don’t make me take it out of my pocket because my mum might have an urgent message.” Teenagers “do value the creation of spaces where they look at each other and talk to each other”. But they also “want human flexibility”.

Strict rules often conflict with reality. In homes with little parental supervision, smartphones may offer children intellectual enrichment, says Livingstone. Even recommendations of no screentime an hour before bed may be unsuitable for young people who use apps to help them sleep.

“All the talk of rules cuts down the idea that parents can trust their children to make some good decisions sometimes.” Heavy-handed bans that prevent children from participating in society “will breed resentment and conflict”. What we should offer is better defaults and more advice. “We’re terrified of giving guidance, and parents are desperate for guidance.”
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I suppose a lot of people think catering to the tiny affected minority over a vast unaffected majority can be taken as being woke. Probably because they like to get their voices heard above whatever that's not necessary at the time. Just to look like they are 'special, trendy or current'.

I knew what OLD BOY meant, and it shouldn't take that much working out. But it doesn't stop people doing the same thing as above though. Question whatever just for the sake of feeling superior or just being antagonistic.
Stop being a snowflake, words are not going to cut you , bash you over the head , or any other physical injury doubt they on there own will even steal your money
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