The Chronicles of Rishi - Page 45

**Damien** · 21-05-2023, 22:09

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Originally Posted by Paul

What rule says the general public cant ask for a private awareness course ?

They can, and will likely get the same answer - No.

Using your ministerial post to try and get one is the issue.

Pierre · 21-05-2023, 22:13

Such a non-story that i feel embarrassed for the MSM pushing the faux outrage.

1andrew1 · 21-05-2023, 22:22

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Such a non-story that i feel embarrassed for the MSM pushing the faux outrage.

Breaching the Ministerial Code has never been a non-story and there's a good possibility this has happened here. No amount of wishful thinking can alter this fact.

So, pull up a chair and enjoy watching the story unfold this week. Heck, even GB News may find itself covering the story!

Pierre · 21-05-2023, 23:22

She got caught speeding. (As many do)

She was offered to take a speed awareness course, instead of points and a fine ( as is standard policy for all)

As a person of note, she enquired if there was a possibility she could do the course privately.

After being advised this was not possible she opted to take the fine and points, as is her prerogative.

That is all.

It is a non-story, there is nothing to unfold, to pursue this as some kind of scandal is pathetic.

1andrew1 · 22-05-2023, 00:55

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Originally Posted by Pierre

She got caught speeding. (As many do)

She was offered to take a speed awareness course, instead of points and a fine ( as is standard policy for all)

As a person of note, she enquired if there was a possibility she could do the course privately.

After being advised this was not possible she opted to take the fine and points, as is her prerogative.

That is all.

It is a non-story, there is nothing to unfold, to pursue this as some kind of scandal is pathetic.

Such a non-story that it makes the front page of a Tory-supporting newspaper. And that her spokesperson denies she was caught speeding! And that she asked civil servants to help on a private matter when she could have contacted the training provider directly.

Dave42 · 22-05-2023, 01:02

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Such a non-story that i feel embarrassed for the MSM pushing the faux outrage.

you never say that if it was Starmer doing what she did

Sephiroth · 22-05-2023, 06:48

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Such a non-story that it makes the front page of a Tory-supporting newspaper. And that her spokesperson denies she was caught speeding! And that she asked civil servants to help on a private matter when she could have contacted the training provider directly.

It just goes to show what **** the press are sometimes.

**Damien** · 22-05-2023, 07:49

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

It just goes to show what **** the press are sometimes.

It’s a legitimate story.

If she simply asked if it was possible then it’s not an issue, if she tried to leverage her position to get a private one then it is an issue.

1andrew1 · 22-05-2023, 07:58

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Originally Posted by Damien

It’s a legitimate story.

If she simply asked if it was possible then it’s not an issue, if she tried to leverage her position to get a private one then it is an issue.

Her spokesperson has not denied the allegations and avoided this issue entirely. They just said she'd been caught speeding last year, regreted it and paid the fine and took the three points.

Sunak needs to diffuse the story before Home Office Questions this afternoon. I would anticipate a vaguely competent PM would launch an enquiry. Sunak's more competent than his last few predecessors so today will be interesting.

Pierre · 22-05-2023, 08:12

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Originally Posted by Dave42

you never say that if it was Starmer doing what she did

On this issue, I would.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Such a non-story that it makes the front page of a Tory-supporting newspaper.

Oh well! In that case, it’s up there with Profumo then.

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Originally Posted by Damien

It’s a legitimate story.

If she simply asked if it was possible then it’s not an issue, if she tried to leverage her position to get a private one then it is an issue.

Is it really? If I could use any leverage so as not to have to sit in a hotel meeting room on the side of a motorway for the morning, with some old guy and two boy racers, I would.

It’s not like she’s jumping the queue for a kidney op.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

They just said she'd been caught speeding last year, regreted it and paid the fine and took the three points.

Outrageous, she needs to go immediately

jfman · 22-05-2023, 08:18

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Is it really? If I could use any leverage so as not to have to sit in a hotel meeting room on the side of a motorway for the morning, with some old guy and two boy racers, I would.

The fact it’s entirely rational to seek preferential treatment doesn’t mean it’s within the rules.

1andrew1 · 22-05-2023, 08:37

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Outrageous, she needs to go immediately

I favour an enquiry even though I agree that the spokesperson's statement could be construed as admission.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Is it really? If I could use any leverage so as not to have to sit in a hotel meeting room on the side of a motorway for the morning, with some old guy and two boy racers, I would.

Just do it online.

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Originally Posted by jfman

The fact it’s entirely rational to seek preferential treatment doesn’t mean it’s within the rules.

Nail on the head!

ianch99 · 22-05-2023, 09:32

If it wasn't the person doing this, this non-story would remain a non-story. However given the arrogance & entitlement of her and her colleagues, the opposition want, correctly, to remind the country what sort of people they are and why they will likely be in opposition for a long time.

1andrew1 · 22-05-2023, 10:28

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Originally Posted by ianch99

If it wasn't the person doing this, this non-story would remain a non-story. However given the arrogance & entitlement of her and her colleagues, the opposition want, correctly, to remind the country what sort of people they are and why they will likely be in opposition for a long time.

It would be a story whoever did it, particularly given the rule-breaking that went on under the Johnson regime.

It's more of a story now as:
- Braverman has previously resigned for rule-breaking and set herself a low bar for resigning.
- Sunak was dependent on her to get his PM role. Will her dare rock the boat by ordering an investigation?
- She's not denied the allegation.

Pierre · 22-05-2023, 11:07

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Originally Posted by jfman

The fact it’s entirely rational to seek preferential treatment doesn’t mean it’s within the rules.

Even if she did seek it, she didn't get it. Case closed.