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Old 30-05-2024, 21:50   #601
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Re: Trump’s Troubles

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share

Verdict has been reached at 21:39 (our time)

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We may be waiting for 20 more minutes before we know the verdict.

Justice Merchan told us that jurors need some time to fill out the verdict sheet. On the sheet, each of the 34 counts are listed, and jurors will need to write whether they find Trump guilty or not guilty on each one.

Then, the jury will make their way back into the room and the foreperson will confirm the verdict to the judge.

Each member of the jury must also confirm that the verdict is correct.
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Old 30-05-2024, 22:02   #602
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Re: Trump’s Troubles

The potential of Trump being jailed and the Tories booted out all within 6 weeks? I think 2024 is about to peak….
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Trump found Guilty on all 34 counts
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Re: Trump’s Troubles

They’re still reading them out…

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Jury found Donald Trump guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records, a felony.

He faces up to 4 years in prison.
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Re: Trump’s Troubles

The path to conviction has been a long one and this verdict of felony is long overdue. I hope he does the honourable thing and withdraws as Republican Presidential candidate.

Also just heard Trump may be unable to vote for himself in elections as felons don't get the right to vote.
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The path to conviction has been a long one and this verdict of felony is long overdue. I hope he does the honourable thing and withdraws as Republican Presidential candidate.
Honourable. There’s your problem right there.
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Trump's team is requesting a date of mid-to-late July for sentencing because of a conflict with another court hearing in Florida.

Prosecutors do not object.

Sentencing will take place on 11 July at 10:00 local time (15:00 BST) and the court will order a probation report for Trump, Merchan says.
Sentencing hearing is four days before the Republican national convention starts…
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Re: Trump’s Troubles

Trump's usual BS bingo outside court. Meltdown coming. Can't wait to see what he posts on untruth social later.
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The path to conviction has been a long one and this verdict of felony is long overdue. I hope he does the honourable thing and withdraws as Republican Presidential candidate.

Also just heard Trump may be unable to vote for himself in elections as felons don't get the right to vote.
https://www.aclufl.org/sites/default...2022_final.pdf

Florida State law (where Trump resides)

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If you were convicted of a felony in another state:

you were convicted outside Florida, your voting rights are governed by the state where you were convicted. In many other states, you automatically regain your voting rights when released from prison or complete probation/ parole.
Under NY State law, convicted felons can still vote whilst on appeal, as long as they are not incarcerated.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...rk-rcna154286#

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In the New York case, “the only way he wouldn’t be able to vote is if he is in prison on Election Day,”
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Jury found Donald Trump guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records, a felony.

He faces up to 4 years in prison.
The general opinion seems to be he'll get fined, but we can still hope.
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Incredible that he's a convicted felon and yet is still the Republican candidate. You can take citizens' rights too far.

What if he wins and goes to jail? Would he last even a minute inside prison? Hello, America, some of you are voting for a convicted criminal. Wake the hell UP!
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Just to muddy the waters even more, even if jailed he’s still entitled to secret service protection for life so that would need to be taken in to consideration.

As much of a shame as this is, given his age and previous “good character”, actual jail time is looking more and more unlikely. Many political commentators are saying at worst he’s looking at community service.
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Incredible that he's a convicted felon and yet is still the Republican candidate. You can take citizens' rights too far.

What if he wins and goes to jail? Would he last even a minute inside prison? Hello, America, some of you are voting for a convicted criminal. Wake the hell UP!

Yet you could argue that someone convicted in early life, reforms and shows that reform could do a good job in public office. Would depend on what they were convicted for and how it would affect their ability to govern and/or be unduly influenced.


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