Russia has invaded Ukraine
28-02-2022, 13:20
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth
Just been to Sainsbury's for petrol and half the pumps out of service. Speaking to the chap on the till and he said it's been absolute mayhem for the last 24 hours.
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Understandable, price of oil is only going to continue to go up in the short term, people trying to fill up before prices more increases are passed on.
Silly though....
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Well done Liz.... 
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-i...-says-12554048
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28-02-2022, 13:22
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
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Originally Posted by Chris
There’s a fair amount of analysis out there. Partly, he was always going to try something like this eventually. He’s a dyed-in-the-wool ethnic Russian nationalist and Kiev is surprisingly symbolic for such people because this is where the Russian Orthodox Church was originally founded. The ties between church and state have always been extremely strong in Russia, with the brief exception of its Soviet period.
Putin has an emperor complex and in order for him to feel he properly controls everything he is entitled to, the government in Kiev must be compliant. He tried to instal such a regime before but it was overthrown. Until now his efforts to rectify that have focused on nibbling around the edges of Ukraine. As to why he’s gone full Tonto now; well he is known to have been extremely paranoid about covid and is known to have kept everyone at arms length for 2 years now. It seems to have fed his general paranoia and now nobody can get close enough for long enough to talk him down. Only yes men can even get in the same room now. This is why making it painful for them is a key strategy. Putin isn’t going to change, but eventually the price of propping him up in his delusions will exceed the price of challenging him.
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I've read some analysis that says that pulling out of Afghanistan encouraged Putin to do this not too long after.
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28-02-2022, 13:24
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
to add again....
I'm not sure why the Ukraine are trusting Belarus as the location for talks considering;
1. They've actively allowed Russian forces to travel through their country to attack.
2. There are rumours nothing more than rumours i should say, that will potentially supply troops to fight alongside the russians.
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28-02-2022, 13:31
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I wouldn't trust Russia with these talks, they were dropping bombs overnight. If you thought there was any chance of a peaceful resolution, you wouldn't do that.
I think that our Government should have advised non trained people not to go to help fight Rusdia as they are only going to get themselves killed.
Still, most citizens of the Ukraine won't be trained, but are prepared to fight for their country. It would also be impossible to dissuade any Ukrainian people living here who want to return home to help with the fight against Putin.
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28-02-2022, 13:45
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov cancels trip to UN in Geneva due to EU airspace ban. -AFP News Agency.
Unlucky-Sucks doesn’t it Russia?!
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28-02-2022, 13:46
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth
Just been to Sainsbury's for petrol and half the pumps out of service. Speaking to the chap on the till and he said it's been absolute mayhem for the last 24 hours.
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Never underestimate the UK idiots ability to panic.
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28-02-2022, 14:11
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Never underestimate the UK idiots ability to panic.
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28-02-2022, 14:27
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
Probably no connection, but a noisy fairly low-level fast mover just went overhead 10 minutes ago, and when I looked for it on Flightradar24, I got this…
(No call sign, no info, but looks like it took off from Menwith Hill…
Currently at 1800 feet and 160 knots just above South Killingholme in Lincolnshire.
Carth, you been up to something? 
Now at 5000 feet and 400 knots above York…
Just noticed there’s a couple of USAF F-15E Strike Eagles bimbling about just Withernsea - wonder if it’s connected?
Update at 14:40 - "no call sign" has dropped off Flightradar24…
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28-02-2022, 14:43
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
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Wtf is he doing there, jeez I can imagine, please, Ukrainians, I have a lucrative British football club, I have to get back to.
Is this the best they can do, send in a billionaire?
What diplomatic experience does he have at all?
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He was governor of Chukota for nearly a decade and he's a close friend of Putin, possibly a smart move, the Russians are unlikely to try something underhand with such a high profile, important guest present
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28-02-2022, 14:43
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Probably no connection, but a noisy fairly low-level fast mover just went overhead 10 minutes ago, and when I looked for it on Flightradar24, I got this…
(No call sign, no info, but looks like it took off from Menwith Hill…
Currently at 1800 feet and 160 knots just above South Killingholme in Lincolnshire.
Carth, you been up to something?
Now at 5000 feet and 400 knots above York…
Just noticed there’s a couple of USAF F-15E Strike Eagles bimbling about just Withernsea - wonder if it’s connected?
Update at 14:40 - "no call sign" has dropped off Flightradar24… |
Well looking at were it originated it must be VTOL as there's no airfields that I know of at that location!
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28-02-2022, 14:59
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28-02-2022, 15:01
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
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Well looking at were it originated it must be VTOL as there's no airfields that I know of at that location!
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V-22 Ospreys have been spotted there before…
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28-02-2022, 15:38
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Wow ...
https://twitter.com/phildstewart/sta...14321138491392
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BREAKING - The EU has asked its satellite centre in Madrid to provide intelligence to Ukraine about Russian troop movements, the EU's head diplomat said.
"Relations with Russia will no longer be determined by trade," he said.
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28-02-2022, 16:37
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
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Originally Posted by Hugh
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Currently at 1800 feet and 160 knots just above South Killingholme in Lincolnshire.
Carth, you been up to something?
. . . . Update at 14:40 - "no call sign" has dropped off Flightradar24…
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Nope, been warm and comfy playing some No Mans Sky
Having said that, I recall taking a drink/toilet break just after half 2  
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28-02-2022, 16:45
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
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is that a trusted source?
Arr Reuters
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