23-03-2023, 23:14
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Re: Britain outside the EU
nainonicles ?
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27-03-2023, 14:47
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Brexit damage as big as Covid, says OBR – predicting five years before incomes recover
UK seeing ‘biggest squeeze on living standards’ on record, says head of fiscal watchdog
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...08178.html?amp
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27-03-2023, 14:58
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Dave42
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Yeah but blue passports .
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27-03-2023, 15:03
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Yeah but blue passports .
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remember when it used to be blue passports and fish
now since fishing industry damaged only blue passports left
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27-03-2023, 15:07
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Dave42
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It is quite interesting that the Brexit disaster is now being discussed openly by people liked Laura K. More and more, the architects of the project will challenged in the open, and will find it more & more impossible to deny reality. The only people really left with those who are either in denial or who always planned for this. People like Mogg will be seeking to monetise the race to the bottom via his off shored investment firm.
The good example of the race to the bottom is the latest revelation that 100% of UK honey has failed EU authenticity tests: https://www.theguardian.com/food/202...henticity-test
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27-03-2023, 15:22
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Re: Britain outside the EU
So ... false Bees ?
What exactly has that got to do with brexit
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27-03-2023, 16:06
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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So ... false Bees ?
What exactly has that got to do with brexit
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lmfao
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27-03-2023, 17:11
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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So ... false Bees ?
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Yeap, Silver Spoon species...
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27-03-2023, 18:20
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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So ... false Bees ?
What exactly has that got to do with brexit
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Wow, really? You don't get how a third country can water down its food standards and compromise the ability to export food stuffs to the EU?
---------- Post added at 18:20 ---------- Previous post was at 18:20 ----------
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Originally Posted by Ms NTL
Yeap, Silver Spoon species...
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Very good. I see what you did there
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27-03-2023, 21:33
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Wow, really? You don't get how a third country can water down its food standards and compromise the ability to export food stuffs to the EU?SNIP
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I'd have thought there was enough for you to go on without coming up with your honey claptrap. You're making a fool of yourself.
The change to the food standards that was made last year related meat imports. However the EU is suffering the same as the French newspaper Le Monde reports:
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/environmen...20473_114.html
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When the bees disappear, honey is not really honey anymore. A massive honey fraud has been revealed by the European Commission. "A significant proportion of honey imported into Europe is suspected of being fraudulent, but this honey is often not detected," said the services of the European executive, in a report published on Thursday, March 23.
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Your anti-Brexit vehemence lets you down.
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27-03-2023, 22:45
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I'd have thought there was enough for you to go on without coming up with your honey claptrap. You're making a fool of yourself.
The change to the food standards that was made last year related meat imports. However the EU is suffering the same as the French newspaper Le Monde reports:
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/environmen...20473_114.html
Your anti-Brexit vehemence lets you down.
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Not my claptrap I'm afraid. You actually quoted the point I was making
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A significant proportion of honey imported into Europe is suspected of being fraudulent
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Yes, they are talking about UK honey. Even the Express is fessing up: https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/17...city-test-fail
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Honey blended and packaged in the UK has been found to fail the EU's standards of authenticity after tests conducted by the European Commission found every single British sample originated from overseas and was mixed with sugar syrup
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I guess the truth hurts too much for some.
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27-03-2023, 23:06
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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fROM THE VERY ARTICLE:
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The "fake honey" that has been pinpointed comes mainly from China and Turkey.
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I couldn't find the word "UK" in the article. So what are you on about?
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27-03-2023, 23:18
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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fROM THE VERY ARTICLE:
I couldn't find the word "UK" in the article. So what are you on about?
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What don't you understand in the sentence: "Honey blended and packaged in the UK has been found to fail the EU's standards of authenticity"
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27-03-2023, 23:56
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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What don't you understand in the sentence: "Honey blended and packaged in the UK has been found to fail the EU's standards of authenticity"
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Maybe the word UK appears after the paywall has been satisfied. But there is a near identical article in Forbes, which I reproduce below in its entirety. And yes - the UK gets a mention - but as a victim in the same way as the EU, discovered by the EU in tested imports. NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RIDICULOUS STATEMENT YOU MADE ABOUT THE WATERING DOWN OF FOOD STANDARDS IN THE UK. The article says that this fraud has been going on for years (as in well before any changes to UK food standards - regarding meat imports - were changed.) Your hatred of Brexit lets you down, sometimes.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/cecilia...h=382cb0cb68b2
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Nearly Half Of The Honey In European Markets Is Fake, EU Investigation
Finds
Cecilia Rodriguez, Senior Contributor
Half of the honey imported into the European Union, is suspected of being adulterated with sugar syrups, according to an investigation by European officials published on Thursday.
The research, spearheaded by the European Commission’s Anti-Fraud Office (OLAF) and the Joint Research Centre (JRC), revealed that 46% of the 320 samples of imported honey – taken randomly between November, 2021, and February, 2022 —are part of a massive fraud.
According to the sampling and monitoring work carried out by the Brussels-based body, almost 50% of the honey from non-European countries is cut with sugar syrups made from rice, wheat or sugar beet.
China and Turkey, main honey fakers
Any addition to honey is prohibited by European regulations. With 46% of the samples analyzed being fraudulent, it is safe to say that a significant proportion of the honey consumed in Europe is fake.
“With 175,000 tons of honey imported per year, the Old Continent is the world's second-largest importer of honey after the United States,” writes Le Monde.
Most fake honey is brought from China (74%) and Turkey (14 out of 15). All the 10 honeys entered via the United Kingdom were marked “non-compliant” and mixed with imports from Mexico, Ukraine and Brazil.
“A large part of the honey imported from non-E.U. countries and found suspicious by the JRC of being adulterated remains present and undetected on the E.U. market,” the study found.
The report has confirmed suspicions of consumer groups and Europe’s homegrown beekeepers who have found themselves competing with the influx of low-priced imported honey.
Real bees making real honey — and only about half that real honey makes it to Europoe.
Europe: a sieve for false honey
Considering the number of fraudulent cases, the consumers’ association Foodwatch has described the European market as “a real sieve.”
“Of 123 honey exporters to Europe, 70 are suspected of having adulterated their products, and out of 95 European importers checked, two-thirds are affected by at least one suspect batch,” writes L’Essentiel.
To date, “44 operators in the E.U. have been investigated and seven have been sanctioned,” alerts Olaf. Of the 21 samples taken in France, only 4 were “real honey,” in Germany, which concentrates a third of European imports, half of the 32 samples analyzed were suspect.
Not only sugars
Apart from the main fraudulent addition of sugar syrups, the report also alerts of the presence of additives and colorings and the falsification of traceable information. “Honey naturally contains sugars and, according to EU law, it must remain pure: there can be no water or cheap sugar syrups artificially added to increase the volume,” according to OLAF.
“It is important that we remain vigilant against any abuse,” said Ville Itala, OLAF’s director.“We also found instances of labels claiming false origins of the product.”
“The dishonest practice and practices deceive consumers and disadvantage honest producers in the face of unfair competition.”
Multiple years of fraud
Foodwatch argues that the fact that so much adulterated honey slipped through to consumers showcases weakness in official testing.
“European consumers have been shopping for fraudulent honey in supermarkets for years without knowing about it,” said Ingrid Kragl of Foodwatch. “National control services, but also private laboratories, have failed to detect the fraud because their means are insufficient.”
Europe, U.S. principal buyers
The main buyers of honey produced in the world are Europe and the United States.
The E.U. has some 612,000 beekeepers and 18 million hives producing about 280,000 tons of honey a year, in addition to beeswax, pollen, royal jelly and propolis.
While E.U. experts don’t believe that the adulterated honey presents a danger to human health, the cheap contents create unfair competition for farmers who follow the rules governing purity of the golden gift of bees.
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28-03-2023, 15:10
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Maybe the word UK appears after the paywall has been satisfied. <snip>
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Whatever ... I guess you are too far down the rabbit hole.
Some other examples of food standard degradation, coming soon to a Waitrose near you!
- food made from gene-edited crops
- hormone beef & pork from Australia and soon from Canada & Mexico
and, don't forget, don't drink the water!
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