15-07-2021, 21:14
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Re: The Smart Meter Con
Only Greece has higher costs for electrcity.
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15-07-2021, 21:36
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Re: The Smart Meter Con
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Only Greece has higher costs for electrcity.
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What actually matters is the final price to consumers.
Including taxes and levies paints a different picture.
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Germany, Denmark, Belgium, Spain, Italy, and Ireland are all above the UK.
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15-07-2021, 22:23
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Re: The Smart Meter Con
Received the bill from my provider yesterday, no smart meter fitted so they've been estimating.
They must have sent someone along to actually read the meter lately, as the bill shows I have received a £13 refund and am now £9-46p in credit 
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17-07-2021, 09:42
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Very good 
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30-07-2021, 12:53
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Re: The Smart Meter Con
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Originally Posted by Carth
Hello, we'd like to fit a smart meter for your electricity supply.
I see, would that be so you can save money by making your meter readers redundant, and then calculate my bills using the data sent from a plastic box - that may decide to malfunction and send wrong data?
No, it's so you know that when you boil the kettle you will use more electricity.
Great, sign me up.
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All of the above then 'Oh, sorry, we aren't installing them in your area at the moment'.
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19-08-2021, 20:07
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Re: The Smart Meter Con
The scandal & con continues.
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Energy Suppliers still installing tens of thousands of SMETS 1 smart meters
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.... Despite the NRO and several instances of Ofgem threatening to impose Final Orders on companies still installing SMETS1 meters, firms still installed 57,499 of them over the past six months, with 5,573 of them being installed in January [2021].
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https://www.dyballassociates.co.uk/e...1-smart-meters
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19-08-2021, 20:09
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Re: The Smart Meter Con
My energy provider has stopped sending me emails trying to get me to have a smart meter installed and has started sending physical post. So I have stopped using my electronic trash can and started using the physical one.
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19-08-2021, 20:21
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Re: The Smart Meter Con
I havent had one for years, I guess they gave up.
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19-08-2021, 20:46
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Re: The Smart Meter Con
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I havent had one for years, I guess they gave up.
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Trouble is they won't give up. Tricks I expect them to use:
1. Your meter is end-of-life;
2. Your meter is faulty.
Smart Meters are a money-making wheeze for the energy suppliers who can move to variable time of day tariffs. Bustards.
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19-08-2021, 21:15
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Re: The Smart Meter Con
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Trouble is they won't give up. Tricks I expect them to use:
1. Your meter is end-of-life;
2. Your meter is faulty.
Smart Meters are a money-making wheeze for the energy suppliers who can move to variable time of day tariffs. Bustards.
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Trick is never to give the blighters your phone no.
God help anyone with the phone no 01234567890 
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19-08-2021, 21:22
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Re: The Smart Meter Con
I'm getting letters now.
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20-08-2021, 03:36
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Just bin them!!
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God help anyone with the phone no 01234567890 |
Heh I wonder if anyone has that numba
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20-08-2021, 07:39
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Re: The Smart Meter Con
Most SMETS1 meters can be remotely updated to have SMETS2 functionality.
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As SMETS1 meters where originally installed on different management systems, they often failed when transferring between suppliers and stopped communicating. Having got DCC and SMETS2 meters working, it was decided to upgrade the SMETS1 meters to allow them to be managed through DCC. This would then allow them to operate correctly for most functions including sending meter readings and switching supplier.
The upgrade process involves updating the meter's firmware remotely and making changes in the old management system and in DCC. The migration process to the new DCC SMETS2 system is called Enrolment and Adoption (E&A).
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20-08-2021, 09:36
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Re: The Smart Meter Con
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Most SMETS1 meters can be remotely updated to have SMETS2 functionality.
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That's part of the con. Both meters allow variable tariffs to be applied real time and your electricity can be cut off at the press of a remote button. This is not mentioned in the hype.
It's a disgusting con.
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26-08-2021, 19:40
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Re: The Smart Meter Con
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth
That's part of the con. Both meters allow variable tariffs to be applied real time and your electricity can be cut off at the press of a remote button. This is not mentioned in the hype.
It's a disgusting con.
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Never had any problems with mine. Honestly l can't see what the point of them is.Other than one less Person in work but the plus side is no one bothering me 
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