01-12-2021, 17:52
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
And given them a “not wear a mask” option, penalty free, if they so choose.
They can’t. If approached by a policeman, you simply say I am exempt as it gives me anxiety - and that is it, conversation over the police cannot do anything.
Scientists in agreement? You sure about that? Some are some aren’t.
But in regards to measures, it is the government where the buck stops.
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I think the majority of scientists are in agreement like i said.
And if people choose not to wear a mask where you're legally required to because they're 'making a protest' then fair enough, but they should at least have the balls to admit why they're doing it rather than lie and say it's due to a medical issue.
Principles it would appear, only extend to individuals until there's a financial implication.
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01-12-2021, 21:02
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
if people choose not to wear a mask where you're legally required to because they're 'making a protest'
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Maybe they just don’t want to wear one?
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but they should at least have the balls to admit why they're doing it rather than lie and say it's due to a medical issue.
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I don’t see why?
If there were any principles mask mandates wouldn’t have been reintroduced.
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01-12-2021, 21:13
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Maybe they just don’t want to wear one?
I don’t see why?
If there were any principles mask mandates wouldn’t have been reintroduced.
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We all have to do things we might not want to in life. It is all part of being in a society where there are others to think about instead of yourself. Far too many selfish people out there
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01-12-2021, 21:16
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss
We all have to do things we might not want to it life. It is all part of being in a society where there are others to think about instead of yourself. Far too many selfish people out there
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I think this concept will be lost on him I'm afraid.
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01-12-2021, 21:21
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by daveeb
I think this concept will be lost on him I'm afraid.
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still worth airing
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01-12-2021, 21:23
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss
We all have to do things we might not want to in life. It is all part of being in a society where there are others to think about instead of yourself. Far too many selfish people out there
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Originally Posted by daveeb
I think this concept will be lost on him I'm afraid.
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Do as you’re told, even when you can see the rules don’t make sense, are not based on evidence and are just an edict from the government.
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01-12-2021, 21:26
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Do as you’re told, even when you can see the rules don’t make sense, are not based on evidence and are just an edict from the government.
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Plenty of evidence masks work.
You just want your own way. Something else we all want but some will stamp their feet and cry if someone tells them they have to do different
Yeah cuz we just lost a war had our economy crippled by the enemy forcing us to pay massive reparations and we have a charismatic leader who we trust so we follow him
See the blatant differences between the 1930s and now????
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01-12-2021, 21:36
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss
Plenty of evidence masks work.
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I didn’t say they didn’t - well some masks work - but yes, I’m all for masks when evidenced they are required
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You just want your own way. Something else we all want but some will stamp their feet and cry if someone tells them they have to do different
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No just don’t think I should do something that is plainly illogical because I’m told to do it.
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Yeah cuz we just lost a war
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the attachment was before the war in nazi Germany
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had our economy crippled by the enemy forcing us to pay massive reparations and we have a charismatic leader who we trust so we follow him
See the blatant differences between the 1930s and now????
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Go and read, then we’ll talk.
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01-12-2021, 21:36
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Do as you’re told, even when you can see the rules don’t make sense, are not based on evidence and are just an edict from the government.
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The rules do make sense its just the muppets who don't give a toss about anyone else that are the problem.
Trust Boris, he knows best
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01-12-2021, 21:43
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Mr K
The rules do make sense its just the muppets who don't give a toss about anyone else that are the problem.
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Please, and I mean please, do tell me how this makes sense?
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I’d be interested to hear the scientific evidence that says masks in shops - reduces transmission, masks in pubs - makes no difference, not required.
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01-12-2021, 21:48
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Re: Coronavirus
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Please, and I mean please, do tell me how this makes sense?
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True that doesn't make sense.Probably something to do with Wetherspoons owner. Take it up with your MP over a pint?
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01-12-2021, 21:50
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Re: Coronavirus
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Please, and I mean please, do tell me how this makes sense?
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It doesn’t, because it’s inconsistent - it should be like before, wearing masks except when at the table to minimise infection; we can’t totally eradicate risk (if we want to keep pubs and restaurants open), but we should try to reduce the risk to others.
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When people wear face masks to reduce the spread of the coronavirus, the number of new COVID-19 infections drops by 53%, according to a new study published Thursday in the British Medical Journal.
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https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021...id-cases-study
It’s not all or nothing, it’s about identifying, managing, and reducing risk.
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01-12-2021, 21:52
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Mr K
True that doesn't make sense.
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Amen.
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01-12-2021, 21:53
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
I didn’t say they didn’t - well some masks work - but yes, I’m all for masks when evidenced they are required
No just don’t think I should do something that is plainly illogical because I’m told to do it.
the attachment was before the war in nazi Germany
Go and read, then we’ll talk.
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The war I was referring to was WWI. The reparations were what Germany had to pay the allies and the charismatic leader was Hitler. I know the history well enough ta
The differences between then and now are obvious. We have not lost a war we are not paying reparations and well Boris innit
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01-12-2021, 21:55
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Hugh
It doesn’t, because it’s inconsistent - it should be like before,
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Why? What evidence do you have this course of action is required at this stage?
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but we should try to reduce the risk.
It’s not all or nothing, it’s about identifying, managing, and reducing risk.
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What is the risk? Has it been measured and quantified?
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